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Scientists may have found a way to eliminate chromosome linked to Down syndrome

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Re: Scientists may have found a way to eliminate chromosome linked to Down syndrome

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What's better for them should be the overriding concern and that's to have a normal development.

What is “normal development”? And doesn’t that describe the process, not the outcome? If the outcome is happiness, who knows who has it better?!

Normal development starts with having the normal number of chromosomes. I would think this is elementary biology.

Re: Scientists may have found a way to eliminate chromosome linked to Down syndrome

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's better for them should be the overriding concern and that's to have a normal development.

What is “normal development”? And doesn’t that describe the process, not the outcome? If the outcome is happiness, who knows who has it better?!

While "what is normal" is a reasonable question, a normal development is certainly closer to something that allows folks to achieve most things in any career/hobby/pursuit they choose.

Re: Scientists may have found a way to eliminate chromosome linked to Down syndrome

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What's better for them should be the overriding concern and that's to have a normal development.

As soon as someone starts ascribing towards a "normal" and using the pronoun "them", warning bells should go berserk.

The word "them" has been used for centuries in cases where the writer may want to refer to a subject, or subjects, of no specific gender. I wonder why it's suddenly bothering you.

Re: Scientists may have found a way to eliminate chromosome linked to Down syndrome

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What's better for them should be the overriding concern and that's to have a normal development.

I am not advocating any course in particular. But I will observe that when such treatments become available, such conditions become a marker of lower socioeconomic class and the people with the conditions get treated less well by society. This is why we need a better healthcare system.

It's hard to imagine a treatment cost so high that it wouldn't be worth the USG paying for it. Down syndrome kids and adults have some quantifiable economic cost; normal adults are worth some other quantifiable economic benefit; the difference is going to be significantly more than the cost of treatment.

Re: Scientists may have found a way to eliminate chromosome linked to Down syndrome

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This will never go to human trial.

Willing to bet money that it will, there's a ton of investment right now in what I'd call blatant eugenics. There are companies right now making bank on embryo selection based on genetics, the next step is modifying genes instead of rolling a crap shoot and hoping to get what they want. Funnily enough, such companies are funded by and led by some HN subcultures' favorite people, I would know because I was recruited b…

out of curiosity, what's your stance on abortion? :^)

Re: Scientists may have found a way to eliminate chromosome linked to Down syndrome

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What's better for them should be the overriding concern and that's to have a normal development.

I don't know if it's the case for folks with Down Syndrome (I suppose it's likely not), but hearing-impaired folks have their own culture to the point that in the past it was seen as some as a betrayal to the community to seek out cochlear implants. I think having their own language does a lot to create unity among them. All that above is to say that I wonder if some folks in Down Syndrome might actually prefer their…

People are giving you shit because Down Syndrome sucks, but being deaf sucks too, and withholding hearing from kids of deaf adults is and was child abuse.

Re: Scientists may have found a way to eliminate chromosome linked to Down syndrome

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not advocating any course in particular. But I will observe that when such treatments become available, such conditions become a marker of lower socioeconomic class and the people with the conditions get treated less well by society. This is why we need a better healthcare system.

It's hard to imagine a treatment cost so high that it wouldn't be worth the USG paying for it. Down syndrome kids and adults have some quantifiable economic cost; normal adults are worth some other quantifiable economic benefit; the difference is going to be significantly more than the cost of treatment.

It's hard to imagine a treatment cost so low that the USG would pay for it.

Re: Scientists may have found a way to eliminate chromosome linked to Down syndrome

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's better for them should be the overriding concern and that's to have a normal development.

As soon as someone starts ascribing towards a "normal" and using the pronoun "them", warning bells should go berserk.

The heresy of heresies was common sense.
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