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Web fingerprinting is worse than I thought (2023)

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Re: Web fingerprinting is worse than I thought (2023)

#31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

sure, if they ask you can we track you and you say no they should not fingerprint.

How would you ever find out/enforce this though? With cookies, you can examine the local cookie storage but with fingerprinting everything happens server-side (as I understand).

> with fingerprinting everything happens server-side (as I understand).

It happens client-side. Browser headers sent through for requests aren't enough for fingerprinting.

Re: Web fingerprinting is worse than I thought (2023)

#33

This isn't exactly browser fingerprinting (though it may involve browser fingerprinting.) But the biggest open question I have right now is: what is Meta doing to get around Apple's iOS privacy protections? A couple of years ago, Apple launched App Tracking Transparency as a way to reduce tracking across their iOS app ecosystem. People predicted that this would be devastating for companies like Meta and Snap, and it…

probably just ignored them. Aren't those privacy protections basically you saying "pretty please don't track me?"

Re: Web fingerprinting is worse than I thought (2023)

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post #9

Browser fingerprinting is one of those things that should be outright illegal - it is far more of a threat than tracking cookies ever were. But it hasn't permeated the public consciousness like cookies have, so regulators seem to ignore it.

This is a technical problem, not a legal one. The solution is for browsers to provide users with the ability to limit the information being sent. There's no need for the vast majority of websites to know my OS, number of CPUs, screen or window size, or most of the other fingerprinting metrics.

Re: Web fingerprinting is worse than I thought (2023)

#35

How does web fingerprinting work with things like iPhones, where many people have the same screen, browser, os version, etc?

I think there’s still quite a bit: font size, regional settings (language etc), software versions, browser extensions, adblockers…

Re: Web fingerprinting is worse than I thought (2023)

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post #20
post #9

Browser fingerprinting is one of those things that should be outright illegal - it is far more of a threat than tracking cookies ever were. But it hasn't permeated the public consciousness like cookies have, so regulators seem to ignore it.

Or... You could read GDPR and realize that "cookie dialogs" were never about cookies: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44670345

TIL, thanks! The usual convention of calling them "cookie dialogues" sure obfuscates that.

Re: Web fingerprinting is worse than I thought (2023)

#37
post #9

Browser fingerprinting is one of those things that should be outright illegal - it is far more of a threat than tracking cookies ever were. But it hasn't permeated the public consciousness like cookies have, so regulators seem to ignore it.

Seems almost impossible to police though.

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Re: Web fingerprinting is worse than I thought (2023)

#39

This isn't exactly browser fingerprinting (though it may involve browser fingerprinting.) But the biggest open question I have right now is: what is Meta doing to get around Apple's iOS privacy protections? A couple of years ago, Apple launched App Tracking Transparency as a way to reduce tracking across their iOS app ecosystem. People predicted that this would be devastating for companies like Meta and Snap, and it…

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44169115

They found sneaky ways on Android. There is no way they aren't trying to do so on iOS. One must always assume malice with anything Meta.

Re: Web fingerprinting is worse than I thought (2023)

#40

This isn't exactly browser fingerprinting (though it may involve browser fingerprinting.) But the biggest open question I have right now is: what is Meta doing to get around Apple's iOS privacy protections? A couple of years ago, Apple launched App Tracking Transparency as a way to reduce tracking across their iOS app ecosystem. People predicted that this would be devastating for companies like Meta and Snap, and it…

probably just ignored them. Aren't those privacy protections basically you saying "pretty please don't track me?"

If we're exploring the space of "they're lying" isn't a simpler explanation be that they're lying about their revenue?
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