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UK backing down on Apple encryption backdoor after pressure from US

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Re: UK backing down on Apple encryption backdoor after pressure from US

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This article is explicitly about how J.D. Vance (age 40) & others at the White House are forcefully advocating for preserving E2E encryption. Arguably not for the right reasons, but still. I'm not sure what you mean by "more" but what you are asking for is in fact happening.

They're arguing with foreign countries. Meanwhile the federal government continuously working consolidate all data available under groups like DODGE or ICE or Palantir. Arguing to preserve a tech in a given situation but with other goals ... not sure the first part matters at that point. Perhaps he likes the idea of E2E, but just for himself and his friends. I duno, but whatever it is, it's not about the important th…

While Palantir is a private company and shouldn’t have access to government data, why shouldn’t in theory all government data be accessible to the government?

DOGE is clearly operating illegally for other reasons - not distributions funds that were appropriated by Congress for instance. But data sharing isn’t the root issue. It’s spineless Republicans in Congress and a sycophantic Supreme Court.

And it’s possible to say both that if you are here illegally you should be deported and that it’s currently being driven by animus, cruelty and it should be easier to obtain legal residency especially in areas where we do need more workers and implement another program like Reagan did in the 80s

Re: UK backing down on Apple encryption backdoor after pressure from US

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This article is explicitly about how J.D. Vance (age 40) & others at the White House are forcefully advocating for preserving E2E encryption. Arguably not for the right reasons, but still. I'm not sure what you mean by "more" but what you are asking for is in fact happening.

Hey, even the worst person in the world is owed their right to privacy. Determining if someone is doing evil with their right necessarily undermines privacy for everyone.

I'm sure the police can catch child abusers the old fashioned way: by infiltrating cp networks and posing as kids online. This snooper's charter is in fact overreach and an invitation to build something like the Stasi.

Re: UK backing down on Apple encryption backdoor after pressure from US

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tl,dr: "Vance argued that free speech and democracy were threatened by European elites." edit: Don't shoot the messenger.

To be clear in this case, this is not Europe or the EU, its solely the UK government wanting a backdoor for themselves.

Re: UK backing down on Apple encryption backdoor after pressure from US

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're arguing with foreign countries. Meanwhile the federal government continuously working consolidate all data available under groups like DODGE or ICE or Palantir. Arguing to preserve a tech in a given situation but with other goals ... not sure the first part matters at that point. Perhaps he likes the idea of E2E, but just for himself and his friends. I duno, but whatever it is, it's not about the important th…

While Palantir is a private company and shouldn’t have access to government data, why shouldn’t in theory all government data be accessible to the government? DOGE is clearly operating illegally for other reasons - not distributions funds that were appropriated by Congress for instance. But data sharing isn’t the root issue. It’s spineless Republicans in Congress and a sycophantic Supreme Court. And it’s possible to…

I feel like you answered much of your own questions.

Beyond that many of the departments that this data is being extracted from have rules about who can access (no not everyone in the IRS has free reign) and what they can do with it. For good reason, IRS's job is to focus on what the law says they should do, not say punish political enemies and so on.

But transfer it to DODGE, ICE, Palantir, there are no laws at all regarding what they can do with that data.

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Yeah unfortunately we live in a gerontocracy so it's the same people in charge today that were 25 years ago :(

UK not quite as bad as the US age wise, but the real issue is the media who demand all sorts of illiberal things. Rupert Murdoch is 94.

I think this illustrates that in the UK its that the plutocrats like Murdoch are still the same people as 25 years ago

Re: UK backing down on Apple encryption backdoor after pressure from US

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I’m by no means a Trump fan. But I thought it was negligent how the Biden administration didn’t fight for American tech companies internationally and how the prior administration was actively hostile to them. Then people wonder why tech embraced Trump.

Trump will do a lot more harm to US tech companies than Biden. A lot of us here in Europe are moving away from US tech, and as we are building more of our own it's very unlikely we will come back.

Right now there aren't too many EU alternatives yet which is why you don't really notice yet. But the damaged trust in the US as a 'partner' will outlive Trump for decades. As they say "trust arrives on foot and leaves on horseback".

Re: UK backing down on Apple encryption backdoor after pressure from US

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tl,dr: "Vance argued that free speech and democracy were threatened by European elites." edit: Don't shoot the messenger.

To be clear in this case, this is not Europe or the EU, its solely the UK government wanting a backdoor for themselves.

Of course because the UK isn't even in the EU anymore. They're no longer any part of EU policy.
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