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FDA Authorizes Juul E-Cigarettes

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Re: FDA Authorizes Juul E-Cigarettes

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Interesting, what evidence is there that people switch from e-cigarettes to tobacco? I hadn’t heard of that before.

Every single person I've known who switched from tobacco to e-cigarettes has switched back to tobacco. They all say it's better for one reason or another.

That's switching 'back'. People that want vapes/ecigarettes want them for specific reasons and smoked tobacco has way too many other problems.

Re: FDA Authorizes Juul E-Cigarettes

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Interesting, what evidence is there that people switch from e-cigarettes to tobacco? I hadn’t heard of that before.

In the Netherlands the scientific Trimbos Institute has been reporting this based on their regular demographic research polls, but health care professionals are drawing this conclusion too. Near the end of high school vaping is something the kids do. To be really cool, you gotta smoke — and as this group of unfortunate kids is already addicted to nicotine…

You're saying they leave high school and because they vaped they will switch to smoked tobacco?

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> ~ Original and Menthol I'll never understand why adults partaking in a particular vice can't enjoy different flavours (unless the vice is alcohol).

The candy flavors were marketed to children.

ban the marketing to children. or limit the ads to in between all the ads for the different betting platforms.

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Targeting kids and teens with addictive substances (actually targeting anyone with addictive substances) is normalized evil. Also, addictive experiences (shorts...). Normally I lean libertarian but there has to be some allowance/mechanism for defending people from predatory corporations. Vaping was absolutely a huge problem in schools; legally "intentional" or not it was somehow getting picked up by kids.

Re: FDA Authorizes Juul E-Cigarettes

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Targeting kids and teens with addictive substances (actually targeting anyone with addictive substances) is normalized evil. Also, addictive experiences (shorts...). Normally I lean libertarian but there has to be some allowance/mechanism for defending people from predatory corporations. Vaping was absolutely a huge problem in schools; legally "intentional" or not it was somehow getting picked up by kids.

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Re: FDA Authorizes Juul E-Cigarettes

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Interesting, what evidence is there that people switch from e-cigarettes to tobacco? I hadn’t heard of that before.

Every single person I've known who switched from tobacco to e-cigarettes has switched back to tobacco. They all say it's better for one reason or another.

You don't know me but...

I switched to vaping, IDK, 10 or so years ago from an off and (mostly) on cigarette habit and haven't looked back. There was a point where I was spending more on 'cheap' Chinese vape gear than I was on cigarettes but, other than that, no regrets.

And, yes, I'm a middle-aged adult who likes to vape flavors a well.

Perhaps the only downside, if you can even call it that, is I never tried to quit vaping as I enjoy it and it (probably) won't kill me before the lingering effects of a couple decades of smoking, environmental hazards of invading Iraq twice, the skin cancer and whatever else comes up due to my general lack of concern over living a healthy lifestyle.

Re: FDA Authorizes Juul E-Cigarettes

#38

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Interesting, what evidence is there that people switch from e-cigarettes to tobacco? I hadn’t heard of that before.

Every single person I've known who switched from tobacco to e-cigarettes has switched back to tobacco. They all say it's better for one reason or another.

And every person I know that vapes did so to quit tobacco and hasn't gone back. Unfortunately, I don't know anywhere near enough people to have significant conclusions based on that.

Re: FDA Authorizes Juul E-Cigarettes

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Interesting, what evidence is there that people switch from e-cigarettes to tobacco? I hadn’t heard of that before.

In the Netherlands the scientific Trimbos Institute has been reporting this based on their regular demographic research polls, but health care professionals are drawing this conclusion too. Near the end of high school vaping is something the kids do. To be really cool, you gotta smoke — and as this group of unfortunate kids is already addicted to nicotine…

As a former smoker and vaper for 12 years this is unfathomable to me. Vaping is just better in every way. It takes some getting used to when coming straight from cigarettes, but after that the flavor of tobacco is just pure stench when compared to vanilla, strawberries etc.

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Restrictions placed by govt is not a part of MAHA, and is anti MAGA.

If the federal government can't implement and enforce restrictions then it has no authority at all. Why do you think we have tariffs?

It is not so much about what the govt can’t do. It is more about what it should not do. It is the philosophy of govt that is in the MAGA political discourse.

I am not of the opinion that govt should not be placing restrictions. That is literally the definition of laws. I am of the opinion that govt should not regulate how someone can do something.

Loosening a ban on menthol, not because it was harmful, but because it was causing addictions, was an overreach. It should have banned the Tobacco and nicotine instead.

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