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I think the discussion should focus more on why benefit is this small for users to switch.
With browser selection dialog, I think vendors have already 0 cost channel for UA. I don't think new binary would make a big difference.
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This Apple policy is the only thing stopping chrome from having a full monopoly, and we should be careful trying to remove it
Might as well get it over with quickly.
In case it's not obvious, these crutches should be removed.
Treat Google paying Apple for the use of Google's search engine and Mozilla for the same thing, as anti-competitive (they're token gestures propping up the monopoly).
And break Google up in multiple companies. Not sure along which lines but I would steer towards platforms (Android + Chrome + Search + Docs + Cloud; banned from entering advertising), Play Store, Ads.
The same thing should be done to Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, etc. Nobody has the guts anymore.
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Your shiny new iPhone exists because European ASML supplied the machines to make the chips inside of it. The pro-Apple bias on HN is truly insufferable sometimes.
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Not the most practical but you can rent a macOS VM.
A hobby dev will not do such thing.
For smaller businesses and hobbyists it feels like expecting support for all major browsers would be discouraging in a negative way. I appreciate digital art even if it doesn’t work in my favorite browser and a shitty online menu for a food truck is better than none.
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A hobby dev will not do such thing.
It costs 10 cents an hour though. @javcasas for sure it's not practical if you want to develop with it, I was more thinking of testing on preprod/prod. But maybe ngrok can be sufficient to test your local dev from the VM?
10 cents is the smallest of the associated expenses. You are ignoring all the other expenses.
The simple fact that they restrict this to the EU, where they are forced to provide the option, shows that Apple is not serious about this. They're barely fulfilling the letter of the law here. If this would be only about security as Apple claims, there would be no reason to restrict this to the EU and to force Browser vendors to publish other engines as separate apps after they meet the security conditions Apple imp…
Is that surprising in any way?
They've been asked to not reject third party browser engines in the EU. Check.
Google has plenty of developers in the EU so I'm not even sure what people want exactly.
This Apple policy is the only thing stopping chrome from having a full monopoly, and we should be careful trying to remove it
This Apple policy is the only thing stopping chrome from having a full monopoly, and we should be careful trying to remove it
If Chrome has a full monopoly, guess what's the next logical action... Might as well get it over with quickly. In case it's not obvious, these crutches should be removed. Treat Google paying Apple for the use of Google's search engine and Mozilla for the same thing, as anti-competitive (they're token gestures propping up the monopoly). And break Google up in multiple companies. Not sure along which lines but I would…
I think nobody has the manpower to deal with all the shit. The EU already regularly fines big companies, but for every fine they get away with so much.