1. Didn't realize Thunderbird was still available 2. Windows 11 design on macOS would be trippy.
1. There is no better open-source alternative for Windows for mail/calendar/contacts client.
I am using Mailspring (0) and it’s pretty good.
Thunderbird: Fluent Windows 11 Design
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Re: Thunderbird: Fluent Windows 11 Design
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Having a widescreen monitor is irrelevant to me unless I fullscreen my browser (which I don't and I assume most don't). My (multiple) browser windows on my very big wide screen are all roughly in 4:3 ~square shape and top tabs make a lot more sense. And unless you have a browser full of tabs, vertical tab lists usually have massive amounts of purely wasted white space and are generally much less space efficient overa…
> Having a widescreen monitor is irrelevant to me unless I fullscreen my browser (which I don't and I assume most don't). Are you kidding? I'm willing to bet 99% of users run their browsers fullscreen. Using the drag-and-drop feature that splits the screen between two GUIs already marks the office power user, a third windows on a single screen brings us into the territory of the hardcore nerds running tiling window m…
> I'm willing to bet 99% of users run their browsers fullscreen.
Do you mean maximized? I might agree if you do. I almost never see browsers full screen except when playing videos.
Re: Thunderbird: Fluent Windows 11 Design
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
People don't maximize their windows? I have a 16:9 4k monitor and I maximize everything (browser, IDE, image editor, terminal, mail client) except for the rare occasion when I need something viewed side by side (editor+browser, terminal+browser, 2 file browsers, etc.).
Is the web not a terrible experience in 16:9? My main browser window is closer to 1:1, and even then I have tabs on the left.
It's not.
Re: Thunderbird: Fluent Windows 11 Design
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
1. There is no better open-source alternative for Windows for mail/calendar/contacts client.
because barely anybody is making desktop mail/calendar/contacts clients anymore. There is very little development in that market as most people have moved to web interfaces
And even Outlook is a web app these days, with "performance" to match.
Re: Thunderbird: Fluent Windows 11 Design
#351. Didn't realize Thunderbird was still available 2. Windows 11 design on macOS would be trippy.
1. There is no better open-source alternative for Windows for mail/calendar/contacts client.
Claws is available for windows. For my tastes,I'd call it "better" than Thunderbird.
Re: Thunderbird: Fluent Windows 11 Design
#36Had you told me back in 1995, that in 30 years we'd have 4K screens and I would only be able to see 10 emails in my inbox at one time...
Netscape 2.02 or Microsoft Mail client from back then looks amazing by comparison.
Re: Thunderbird: Fluent Windows 11 Design
#37Love the theme. Now if only Thunderbird weren’t a clunky POS. I’ve lost track of how many times I’ve given it another chance after people swear “it’s really better now” again. Still refuses to follow chosen settings for how much mail data to download/store locally (it always eventually downloads everything).
JMAP support has been open for 9 years now: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1322991
It's wild to me they won't prioritize this. We have good JMAP providers like Fastmail, we just need client support
Re: Thunderbird: Fluent Windows 11 Design
#38Had you told me back in 1995, that in 30 years we'd have 4K screens and I would only be able to see 10 emails in my inbox at one time... Netscape 2.02 or Microsoft Mail client from back then looks amazing by comparison.
This isn't Thunderbird. This is a Thunderbird theme.
Normal Thunderbird still gets two to three dozen email subject lines on the screen. I absolutely love it, I've been using it for over 20 years through the rough and through the good. We're in a good period now, and it's been a good period for quite some time.
Re: Thunderbird: Fluent Windows 11 Design
#39Had you told me back in 1995, that in 30 years we'd have 4K screens and I would only be able to see 10 emails in my inbox at one time... Netscape 2.02 or Microsoft Mail client from back then looks amazing by comparison.
This isn't Thunderbird. This is a Thunderbird theme. Normal Thunderbird still gets two to three dozen email subject lines on the screen. I absolutely love it, I've been using it for over 20 years through the rough and through the good. We're in a good period now, and it's been a good period for quite some time.
Not a fork of thunderbird. It's custom CSS that renders the thunderbird "chrome".
Re: Thunderbird: Fluent Windows 11 Design
#40I agree with others about the search bar, kind of looks like a fallen tree in an otherwise pristine field of aero grass.
I love the translucency look of "Fluent" design though. Windows Terminal has a "Use acrylic material in the tab row" which I like to enable. It feels like a callback to Windows 7's Aero which I miss.
Perhaps together with Microsoft's Fluent/acrylic design and Apple's WIP Liquid Glass UI, and with projects like this Thunderbird theme bringing the design to OSS projects, we can bring back some of the optimism and beauty of those early glass designs.