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FOKS: Federated Open Key Service

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Re: FOKS: Federated Open Key Service

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Max here, author of FOKS. I find it interesting how much glue is required to perform basic cryptographic operations, even in 2025. Imagine a very simple idea like encrypting a secret with a YubiKey. If it's an important secret, that you really don't want to lose, then now you need a second YubiKey as a backup, in case the primary is lost or breaks. But now how do you encrypt and how do you rotate the primary out if n…

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Re: FOKS: Federated Open Key Service

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Why is that different from disliking their font preference? It's an aesthetic choice, made by someone who's not advertising their web design expertise, that's purely subjective. If this site were their product, maybe that'd matter. But why does that matter in this context?

Because it shows a lack of respect for and understanding of the work graphic artists actually do. Now if that's your brand, great. You are communicating it effectively. If it's not your brand, it's probably worth considering the subtext in your presentation.

> it shows a lack of respect for and understanding of the work graphic artists actually do

No more than wearing off-the-rack clothes shows a lack of respect for and understanding of the work tailors actually do.

No more than wearing factory-woven cloth shows a lack of respect for and understanding of the work weavers actually do.

No more than heating a can of soup shows a lack of respect for and understanding of the work chefs de cuisine actually do.

In my cases as well as yours, one certainly can choose to spend extra for the luxury of the best to meet the want, but it is also fine to spend less and meet the need. In my cases as well as yours, judging someone for the value he assigns to a luxury is gauche.

Re: FOKS: Federated Open Key Service

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is that different from disliking their font preference? It's an aesthetic choice, made by someone who's not advertising their web design expertise, that's purely subjective. If this site were their product, maybe that'd matter. But why does that matter in this context?

Because it shows a lack of respect for and understanding of the work graphic artists actually do. Now if that's your brand, great. You are communicating it effectively. If it's not your brand, it's probably worth considering the subtext in your presentation.

It's free software. Graphic artists don't work for free.

Re: FOKS: Federated Open Key Service

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Not having any pictures at all is better than having AI pictures, in my opinion

Why is that different from disliking their font preference? It's an aesthetic choice, made by someone who's not advertising their web design expertise, that's purely subjective. If this site were their product, maybe that'd matter. But why does that matter in this context?

It shows a lack of attention to detail when the illustration for "Merkle Trees" is not a forest (it has cycles). And "A Simple Key Hierarchy" could use an illustration of a real example instead of nonsense.

Re: FOKS: Federated Open Key Service

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Max here, author of FOKS. I find it interesting how much glue is required to perform basic cryptographic operations, even in 2025. Imagine a very simple idea like encrypting a secret with a YubiKey. If it's an important secret, that you really don't want to lose, then now you need a second YubiKey as a backup, in case the primary is lost or breaks. But now how do you encrypt and how do you rotate the primary out if n…

FOKS is a cool project; what kind of projects do you foresee getting spun off from this?

I'm actually working on a crytpography based project inspired by Keybase's use of Merkle Trees and identity proofing but with an added dash of privacy through pseudonyms and chain hashing. Thanks for putting time into this.

Re: FOKS: Federated Open Key Service

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Max here, author of FOKS. I find it interesting how much glue is required to perform basic cryptographic operations, even in 2025. Imagine a very simple idea like encrypting a secret with a YubiKey. If it's an important secret, that you really don't want to lose, then now you need a second YubiKey as a backup, in case the primary is lost or breaks. But now how do you encrypt and how do you rotate the primary out if n…

If you haven't seen KERI they're worth a read, I found out about them at an Internet Identity Workshop. It has all those quality of life features for public keys - revocation, rotation, recovery. "Key Event Receipt Infrastructure". Relies on "witnesses" which I don't know if I love it but their presentation impressed me.

https://keri.one/

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