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Adding a feature because ChatGPT incorrectly thinks it exists

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Re: Adding a feature because ChatGPT incorrectly thinks it exists

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I have fun asking Chatbots how to clear the chat and seeing how many refer to non-existent buttons or menu options

I tried asking chat bots about a car problem with a tailgate. They all told me to look for a manual tailgate release. When I responded asking if that model actually had a manual release, they all responded with no, and then some more info suggesting I look for the manual release. None even got close to a useful answer.

Re: Adding a feature because ChatGPT incorrectly thinks it exists

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I've come across something related when building the indexing tool for my vintage ad archive using OpenAI vision. No matter how I tried to prompt engineer the entity extraction into the defined structure I was looking for, OpenAI simply has its own ideas. Some of those ideas are actually good! For example it was extracting celebrity names, I hadn't thought of that. For other things, it would simply not follow my instructions. So I decided to just mostly match what it chooses to give me. And I have a secondary mapping on my end to get to the final structure.

Re: Adding a feature because ChatGPT incorrectly thinks it exists

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I've found this to be one of the most useful ways to use (at least) GPT-4 for programming. Instead of telling it how an API works, I make it guess, maybe starting with some example code to which a feature needs to be added. Sometimes it comes up with a better approach than I had thought of. Then I change the API so that its code works. Conversely, I sometimes present it with some existing code and ask it what it does…

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Re: Adding a feature because ChatGPT incorrectly thinks it exists

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I wrote this the other day: > Hallucinations can sometimes serve the same role as TDD. If an LLM hallucinates a method that doesn’t exist, sometimes that’s because it makes sense to have a method like that and you should implement it. — https://www.threads.com/@jimdabell/post/DLek0rbSmEM I guess it’s true for product features as well.

Seems like lots of us have stumbled on this. It’s not the worst way to dev!

> Maybe hallucinations of vibe coders are just a suggestion those API calls should have existed in the first place.

> Hallucination-driven-development is in.

https://x.com/pwnies/status/1922759748014772488?s=46&t=bwJTI...

Re: Adding a feature because ChatGPT incorrectly thinks it exists

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Anyone who has worked at a B2B startup with a rouge sales team won't be surprised at all by quickly pivoting the backlog in response to a hallucinated missing feature.

I'm guessing you meant "a sales team that has gone rogue" [1], not "a sales team whose product is rouge" [2]? ;-)

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue

2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rouge_(cosmetics)

Re: Adding a feature because ChatGPT incorrectly thinks it exists

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> ChatGPT was outright lying to people. And making us look bad in the process, setting false expectations about our service.

I find it interesting that any user would attribute this issue to Soundslice. As a user, I would be annoyed that GPT is lying and wouldn't think twice about Soundslice looking bad in the process

Re: Adding a feature because ChatGPT incorrectly thinks it exists

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slightly off topic: but on the topic of AI coding agents making up apis and features that don’t exist, I’ve had good success with Q telling it to “check the sources to make sure the apis actually exist”. sometimes it will even request to read/decompile (java) sources, and do grep and find commands to find out what methods the api actually contains
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