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Is there a no-AI audience?

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Re: Is there a no-AI audience?

#31

> Well, good luck finding that setting buried several menus deep within their interface. Howcome noone ever solved this problem? After all these years of UI evolution. It still mostly sucks to find the setting you need to change something that bothers you. There are no suggestions to customize your experience right there when it happens. How about giving user opportunity to reply with a frowny face (or Thanks, I hate…

Because making it easy to disable something is bad for the usage metrics the people who built it are relying on to get promoted.

Re: Is there a no-AI audience?

#32
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm wondering, is there a law stopping me from buying smart TVs wholesale, extracting the parts, recombobulating them into dumb TVs and reselling them?

i dont think so. theres precendent to say that you can legally jailbreak phones you buy, so this seems similar the financial aspect might not be worth your time if theres not enough of an audience. one risk is that the added price might deter your customers, who might just buy a smart tv and not use the smart part, which is what i already do.

I bought a PS2 from a guy decades ago, back when a chip hack broke Sony's copy protection.

His deal was you pay him, he'd then walk across the street to FutureShop, buy the PS2, and do the hack.

So he bought the chips, had them in stock, but didn't invest capital in the rest.

You could easily do the chip hack yourself, but you risked bricking the beast, due to lack of experience.

So the $50 was worth it, chip included.

I'm sure you could do the same with TV hacks, so upfront capital costs are minimal, with reduced risk.

Re: Is there a no-AI audience?

#33
post #12

There is a no-AI audience because "AI" is now associated to jumping on the latest bandwagon for no discernible reason (and if there's a reason, it's usually for getting VC money). And price increases as a bonus. There is a no-AI audience because vendors turn this crap on by default and I don't know where my data (which may not even belong to me but to a customer!) goes. "AI" is the new Clippy. Except MS didn't charge…

It's also synonymous with bad art, bad writing, climate irresponsibility, and hallucination. The problem is, people want to do the least amount of work possible and go home at 5, so they're all too happy to use the tech that their employer is forcing down their throats.

It's synonymous for you - not the rest of the world.

Re: Is there a no-AI audience?

#34
In my opinion the separation isn’t between AI vs. not. It’s between software that is restrained and well reasoned in their development vs. software that sticks unnecessary features in without enough testing that creates bugs and pushes useful UI features into a submenu. Software that updates just so they can sell a new version and get a product manager a promotion almost always sucks.

This is conflated right now with AI because every CEO and PM is pushing AI into their product as a first step to increased monetization once they figure out how. This is not well thought out and it ruins the experience of users who were previously happy with their software. A smart company would wait until the AI actually served a real use case and then roll out a well-tested update, but these companies are exceedingly rare.

I honestly don’t care if you add AI features, but make it so I can ignore them and make sure they don’t get in the way of the actual use of your software.

It’s sad that the best example I can think of such restraint is Apple, who was planning on rolling out AI on everything but realized that a lot of it sucked and halted the rollout partway through. It would have been better if they hadn’t made AI the key selling point of the iPhone 16 before failing to deliver, but at least they realized they should stop.

Microsoft also had a partially self-aware moment with their Recall feature, but it took a massive public outcry and their modifications only partially addressed privacy concerns.

But the volume of shit that gets funding because of AI overwhelms even the partial success stories- agents that don’t do what they claim, self driving cars that have never materialized, Rabbit AI, the Humane AI pin, Meta AI glasses, whatever shit Jonny Ive’s deal with OpenAI will produce- all of that makes people very skeptical because product managers and CEOs can’t hold back and wait until an idea is fully baked.

Re: Is there a no-AI audience?

#35
I think the right tool for the job eventually emerges victorious. Right now AI is shoe-horned absolutely everywhere because it's trendy and no company wants to be seen as lagging -- eventually, it will only remain in product contexts in which it's useful and represents a step forward. At least that's what I hope.

Right now I think there is an audience for no-AI because it's in a lot of places it doesn't belong. After the great rebalancing, maybe it won't be as big of a segment.

Re: Is there a no-AI audience?

#36
The Luddites and their sympathizers were often shot. Some labourers displaced by the mechanical looms did find work elsewhere... if you mean workhouses. You see, history is written by the winners and the capital holders won.

The modern perception of Luddites as being "anti-progress," is the myth written by the winners.

The real history was that they were arguing for better working conditions, abolishing child labour, and social safety nets for workers displaced by machines. The problem was that unions hadn't been invented yet and people working in these textile factories had little leverage. So they made leverage by destroying the machines in an attempt to intimidate the capital holders to the negotiating table.

It didn't work in the end.

History might not be repeating today with AI tools being foisted upon us everywhere but it sure does rhyme.

Re: Is there a no-AI audience?

#38
post #12

There is a no-AI audience because "AI" is now associated to jumping on the latest bandwagon for no discernible reason (and if there's a reason, it's usually for getting VC money). And price increases as a bonus. There is a no-AI audience because vendors turn this crap on by default and I don't know where my data (which may not even belong to me but to a customer!) goes. "AI" is the new Clippy. Except MS didn't charge…

It's also synonymous with bad art, bad writing, climate irresponsibility, and hallucination. The problem is, people want to do the least amount of work possible and go home at 5, so they're all too happy to use the tech that their employer is forcing down their throats.

If you think AI art/writing is bad, you should have seen what the people who produced it were producing before.

Re: Is there a no-AI audience?

#39
It’s right I don’t want AI in my email client. Gmail now summarises threads, but I didn’t ask for that, and I have no reason to trust it any more than the frequently bullshit AI search results.

It still astounds me that the dominant search company, where people go as a first port of call when looking for information, is willing to put generated answers at the top of its results which are variously sorta-right, subtly wrong or outright fabricated.

Meta has started offering artists I know AI versions of their own work on Facebook. There’s no obvious way to turn it off and … frankly it’s pretty insulting.

So yes, there is a no-AI audience. At the very least a let-me-turn-it-off audience. And not just in tech.

Re: Is there a no-AI audience?

#40
I cancelled my very expensive corporate jetbrains ultimate subscription the moment it became infested

(and now just use the free one...)

I will not support any companies attempting to force this dogshit down my throat

if sublime text becomes infested I will no longer pay for those upgrades either

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