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You People Keep Contradicting Yourselves

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Re: You People Keep Contradicting Yourselves

#31

This blog post was served an opportunity on a silver platter to explain what's wrong with the responding tweet and instead contains a highly irrelevant analogy. Original Post: VCs respond if you say AI. VCS don't respond at all if you don't mention AI Response: You should be happy that they only respond to AI and not respond if you don't have AI OP calls the game rigged, but the response calls the game fair. That's w…

I have personally no interest in the actual debate the two were engaged in.

Re: You People Keep Contradicting Yourselves

#33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's rigged against people that dont have that background. because plenty of people dont have that background (possibly even equally impressive, or more hard working, better leadership experience, better ideas) and without the pedigree get passed over by vcs, but this guy could fake everything, not get vetted, and get an inbound meeting on the right credentialism. And the irony is, the vc couldnt see it either!!

I pointed out in the article that this is the system working as intended. Getting a meeting with a VC is not the same thing as getting an investment. And if you're getting thousands of emails, it makes sense to prioritize the most impressive-sounding people as opposed to choosing randomly or something. There was also no control for this experiment, so we don't know what the alternative even looks like.

i think youre missing the point. because it is so utterly lazy, in many ways the signals that vcs are looking at might be antisignals, in the same way that being in "30 under 30" is not a great signal for potential but maybe a good signal for fraud/being great at getting coffee at morgan stanley.

and if it is, it's toxic because people get into entrepreneurship because they think they have a shot. if they don't, because stupid credential X is not in their pocket, why the fuck should they even try?

of course there is not control. this is a tweet, not a submission to PNAS

Re: You People Keep Contradicting Yourselves

#34
> People will argue with an individual as if that individual is the spokesperson for a larger group. People will call someone a hypocrite not for contradicting themselves, but for contradicting other people.

This sums up what's become so exhausting about online discussion

Re: You People Keep Contradicting Yourselves

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post #34

> People will argue with an individual as if that individual is the spokesperson for a larger group. People will call someone a hypocrite not for contradicting themselves, but for contradicting other people. This sums up what's become so exhausting about online discussion

Venkatesh Rao's "Internet of Beefs" article is useful here. He discusses how online feuds resemble battles between armies. How nameless foot soldiers enact brutal violence on other nameless foot soldiers. How after a while, the point of fighting is no longer to win, but to perpetuate violence.

https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2020/01/16/the-internet-of-beefs/

The article is very useful. Reading it has inspired me to improve my own online behavior.

Re: You People Keep Contradicting Yourselves

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post #34

> People will argue with an individual as if that individual is the spokesperson for a larger group. People will call someone a hypocrite not for contradicting themselves, but for contradicting other people. This sums up what's become so exhausting about online discussion

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Re: You People Keep Contradicting Yourselves

#38
Everybody can fall into these traps, depending on the circumstances. There are some assumptions one should be careful to make when online:

1. Assuming you know how the person thinks from a small sample of comments they made. You may have missed the context (can happen on this platform sometimes since the reply may be very distant to the comment it replied to)

2. Assuming what you think they said is what they said for real. Topics that you dealt with can prime you to read certain things in certain ways. This can be bad if you mentally start adding words or sentiments that are not there.

3. Assuming someone is attacking you, personally. Most people don't know each other online, if someone responds critically to you the chances are very high they don't know you and are mostly focused on what you wrote. Maybe they have a point, maybe they read something into it and critque a point you didn't make or maybe they are a troll (so someone who is purposely inflammatory). But it is very rare for someone to attack a person for who they are. If you're attacked you're attacked for what you represent.

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