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TikTok is being flooded with racist AI videos generated by Google's Veo 3

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Post by jazzyjackson »

ilaksh wrote: post #13

This isn't really a problem with video generation or AI in general. Sure, there is an aspect of ragebait to it, but the reality is that racism is extremely widespread. If it were not, this kind of content would not be so popular. The people at the very top of US government right now are white supremacists. I'm sorry that is not an exaggeration. There is another term that encompasses more of their worldviews which is…

Granted that racism is not new, the infinite production of automated content drowning out any genuine human opinion is a harbinger of the internet to come.

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Post by eurleif »

Somewhat related, on YouTube, there's a channel filled with fake police bodycam videos. The most-viewed of these are racially inflammatory, e.g.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AkXOkXNd8w

The description of the channel on YouTube claims: "In our channel, we bring you real, unfiltered bodycam footage, offering insight into real-world situations." But then if you go to their site, https://bodycamdeclassified.com/, which is focused on threatening people who steal their IP, they say: "While actual government-produced bodycam footage may have different copyright considerations and may be subject to broader fair use provisions in some contexts, our content is NOT actual bodycam footage. Our videos represent original creative works that we script, film, edit, and produce ourselves." Pretty gross.

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Post by GaggiX »

drdaeman wrote: post #9

> nothing drives engagement on social media like anger and drama There. It isn’t even a “real” racism, it’s more of a flamebait, where the more outrageous and deranged a take is, the more likely it would captivate attention and possibly even provoke a reaction. Most likely they primarily wanted to earn some buck from viewer engagement, and didn’t care about the ethics of it. Maybe they also had the racist agendas, ma…

I don't even think it's flamebait, people just like being edgy on the internet so they enjoy these memes, reading the comments under these posts would probably confirm what I'm saying.

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Post by whamlastxmas »

CharlesW wrote: post #18
drdaeman wrote: post #9

> nothing drives engagement on social media like anger and drama There. It isn’t even a “real” racism, it’s more of a flamebait, where the more outrageous and deranged a take is, the more likely it would captivate attention and possibly even provoke a reaction. Most likely they primarily wanted to earn some buck from viewer engagement, and didn’t care about the ethics of it. Maybe they also had the racist agendas, ma…

> It isn’t even a “real” racism… Generating and distributing racist materials is racist regardless of the intent, even if the person "doesn't mean it". Simple thought experiment: If the content was CSAM, would you still excuse the perpetrators as victims of perversely incentivized attention economics?

I think maybe the nuance they’re trying to capture is that yes the content is absolutely freaking racist but the reason it’s being spread isn’t racists laughing at it and liking it, it’s people being angry about it

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Post by defrost »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #29
fluidcruft wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't follow your CSAM bit but I have no outrage about Blazing Saddles existing, for example.

It would indeed be an impressive feat to produce a film satirizing child porn

Off the cuff the closest example to mind is the Paedogeddon!! special episode of the Brass Eye series created by Chris Morris.

Admittedly that didn't satirize CSAM material, rather it cut hard into the reflexive reaction people have at the very thought of CSAM and peodophiles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paedogeddon

Moreover, that took a human to thread that needle, it'll be a while before AI generation can pass through that strange valley.

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Post by prvc »

None of the examples shown in the video are passable hoaxes. They are all obvious burlesque-style parodies, albeit made in bad taste. They all also have clear and prominent hallmarks of AI generation. Anyone fooled by these has got bigger, prior problems than any potential belief instilled by these videos.

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Post by RockRobotRock »

eurleif wrote: post #32

Somewhat related, on YouTube, there's a channel filled with fake police bodycam videos. The most-viewed of these are racially inflammatory, e.g.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AkXOkXNd8w The description of the channel on YouTube claims: "In our channel, we bring you real, unfiltered bodycam footage, offering insight into real-world situations." But then if you go to their site, https://bodycamdeclassified.com/ , w…

These videos are insane, and the lack of "this is fake" comments are disheartening.

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Post by deadbabe »

bashinator wrote: post #24
deadbabe wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every generation has their “I miss the time before ‘thing I don’t like’ became a thing”. In our case, it’s just generative AI.

Has every generation also seen the rise of massively-multiuser automated personalized propaganda engines?

TV was one hell of a propaganda engine.

Re: TikTok is being flooded with racist AI videos generated by Google's Veo 3

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Post by trhway »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #31
ilaksh wrote: post #13

This isn't really a problem with video generation or AI in general. Sure, there is an aspect of ragebait to it, but the reality is that racism is extremely widespread. If it were not, this kind of content would not be so popular. The people at the very top of US government right now are white supremacists. I'm sorry that is not an exaggeration. There is another term that encompasses more of their worldviews which is…

Granted that racism is not new, the infinite production of automated content drowning out any genuine human opinion is a harbinger of the internet to come.

it also allows automated production of positive content. The main issue here is given a sea of good and a sea of bad content, where the typical person would go for a swim? Why calls for empathy fall flat while inciting rage and hatred is so successful?
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