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Re: Websites hosting major US climate reports taken down

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Post by padjo »

andrekandre wrote: post #23
amarcheschi wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess they see themselves as high officers in those states. I fail to understand how someone could read about living in a dictatorship and go "yeah, I would like to live like that"

> I fail to understand how someone could read about living in a dictatorship and go "yeah, I would like to live like that" fwiw there are religious people who read about the great kings in the bible and wish they had one of those today, and they vote (not endorsing, just sharing my experience)

There are also religious people who look forward to the coming of the “end times”. They also vote.

Re: Websites hosting major US climate reports taken down

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Post by g-b-r »

MangoToupe wrote: post #14
janice1999 wrote: post #4

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Destroying federal governance seems on point for people who read Yarvin and want to rule feudal micro-states as techno-kings.

Wow, that's possibly the bleakest set of opinions I've ever seen detailed. I can't help but think that this is typical self-loathing and ensuing self-destruction turned towards society itself. I need to read his actual writing, though. I'm sure there's also some element of actively pandering towards people in power desperate to justify their hold through some ideology.

So you don't know that the vice-president's mentor completely agrees with him

Re: Websites hosting major US climate reports taken down

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Post by gsf_emergency_2 »

MangoToupe wrote: post #14
janice1999 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Destroying federal governance seems on point for people who read Yarvin and want to rule feudal micro-states as techno-kings.

Wow, that's possibly the bleakest set of opinions I've ever seen detailed. I can't help but think that this is typical self-loathing and ensuing self-destruction turned towards society itself. I need to read his actual writing, though. I'm sure there's also some element of actively pandering towards people in power desperate to justify their hold through some ideology.

I can outbleak that! In 2 paragraphs!

Although it seems more robust in the long term*, anti-intellectualism probably has a cliff of adaptivity, just like academia, ideology, or indeed any collection of values

*The foundations of China's rise can ultimately be traced to the cultural revolution? Now we wait.

Re: Websites hosting major US climate reports taken down

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Post by Hikikomori »

Larrikin wrote: post #28
jfengel wrote: post #16

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You don't have to see yourself as a high officer. You just have to imagine that you will be restored to your deserved state. In that state you are slightly better than average, and only those who are morally defective suffer. (Those are the ones who are now unjustly keeping you from succeeding on your merits.) The high officials are the truly great ones who have restored the natural order. You don't need that. You ju…

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Racists were just temporarily embarrassed by the civil war.

Re: Websites hosting major US climate reports taken down

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Post by andrekandre »

padjo wrote: post #31
andrekandre wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I fail to understand how someone could read about living in a dictatorship and go "yeah, I would like to live like that" fwiw there are religious people who read about the great kings in the bible and wish they had one of those today, and they vote (not endorsing, just sharing my experience)

There are also religious people who look forward to the coming of the “end times”. They also vote.

yep, they definitely do

Re: Websites hosting major US climate reports taken down

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Post by g-b-r »

amarcheschi wrote: post #7
janice1999 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Destroying federal governance seems on point for people who read Yarvin and want to rule feudal micro-states as techno-kings.

I guess they see themselves as high officers in those states. I fail to understand how someone could read about living in a dictatorship and go "yeah, I would like to live like that"

Partly being submissive, partly betting on being among the rulers, partly distaste for most of the world, and partly just idiocy and insanity

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Post by janice1999 »

Larrikin wrote: post #28
jfengel wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't have to see yourself as a high officer. You just have to imagine that you will be restored to your deserved state. In that state you are slightly better than average, and only those who are morally defective suffer. (Those are the ones who are now unjustly keeping you from succeeding on your merits.) The high officials are the truly great ones who have restored the natural order. You don't need that. You ju…

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You reminded me of the Lyndon B Johnson quote which seems more relevant that ever. "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

Re: Websites hosting major US climate reports taken down

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Post by KerrAvon »

mrtksn wrote: post #30
Henchman21 wrote: post #27

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There is no plan, and I am not sure why you’d think otherwise?

I think there must be a plan after the USSR collapse. Somehow they did not let rough agents obtaining the warheads but there were enough rumors, literature and media around it to prompt a consideration IMHO.

tl;dr: the Soviet state didn't collapse in the manner of a zombie apocalypse or environmental catastrophe, it collapsed politically; there was continuity in command / control until the weapons were all moved back physically into Russia.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/16mab9x/when...

Re: Websites hosting major US climate reports taken down

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Post by KerrAvon »

mrtksn wrote: post #25

Right, nice savings and opportunities for fossil energy industry. Good job. So what is the plan for handling the US nuclear warhead stockpile as the empire crumbles? I'm worried about billionaires with nukes. Maybe not the person directly but people behind all that envision super wealthy city-states and I totally expect those to have nukes. The nuclear codes won't stop anyone with time and engineers. These are intend…

China and India both know how to handle nuclear weapons and would be interested in ensuring safe handling.
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