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Sam Altman Slams Meta’s AI Talent Poaching: 'Missionaries Will Beat Mercenaries'

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Re: Sam Altman Slams Meta’s AI Talent Poaching: 'Missionaries Will Beat Mercenaries'

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At least from the outside, OpenAI's messaging about this seems obnoxiously deluded, maybe some of those employees left because it starts feels like a cult built on foundations of self importance? Or maybe they really do know some things we don't know, but it seems like a lot of people are eager to keep giving them that excuse. But then again, maybe they have such a menagerie of individuals with their heads in the clo…

Yeah it's a tough spot he's found himself in. How do you convince people who know more about this stuff than anybody that you're barreling towards something that's an improbability? It seems that most of them have made their choice to turn more towards reality, the material reality, and register their skill with an organization that holds that in higher regard. I can't blame them, and neither can he, but he also can'…

> I can't blame them, and neither can he

He's certainly trying with statements like this.

To be fair, he's hardly alone. Business is built on dupers and dupees. The duper talks about how important the mission of the business is while taking the value of the labor of the dupee. If he had to work for the money he pays the dupee, he would be a lot less interested in the mission.

Re: Sam Altman Slams Meta’s AI Talent Poaching: 'Missionaries Will Beat Mercenaries'

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I like sama and many other folks at OpenAI, but I have to call things how I see them: "What Meta is doing will, in my opinion, lead to very deep cultural problems. We will have more to share about this soon but it's very important to me we do it fairly and not just for people who Meta happened to target." Translation from corporate-speak: "We're not as rich as Meta." "Most importantly of all, I think we have the most…

> "But we have the core right in a way that I don't think anyone else quite does"

Translation from corpospeak: "I think my pivot to for-profit is very clever and unique" :)

Re: Sam Altman Slams Meta’s AI Talent Poaching: 'Missionaries Will Beat Mercenaries'

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I like sama and many other folks at OpenAI, but I have to call things how I see them: "What Meta is doing will, in my opinion, lead to very deep cultural problems. We will have more to share about this soon but it's very important to me we do it fairly and not just for people who Meta happened to target." Translation from corporate-speak: "We're not as rich as Meta." "Most importantly of all, I think we have the most…

The perfect corollary is that Altman is as mercenary, if not more, than Zuckerberg, given all the power grabs he did in OpenAI. Even the "Open" in OpenAI is a joke.

He just has less options because OpenAI is not as rich as Meta.

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For a group of people who talk incessantly about the value of unrestricted markets, tech bros sure hate having to participate in free labor markets. Being a missionary for big ideas doesn't mean dick to a creditor.

Capitalists don't like markets, or at least not the markets that we're told capitalism will bring about. Those markets are supposed to increase competition and drive down prices until companies are making just barely enough to survive. What capitalist wants that for himself? He wants decreased competitions and sky high prices for himself, and increased competition and lower prices for his competitors and suppliers.

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AI as a religion should scare any investor. Where are the products that you can sell for moolah?

The product is a model that takes knowledge and puts it in a form that can act on it without a human doing the acting.

You sell it to people who don't want to pay other people while getting the same productivity.

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Can someone make an honest argument for how OpenAI staff are missionaries, after the coup? I'd be very happy to be convinced that supporting the coup was the right move for true-believer missionaries. (Edit: It's an honest and obvious question, and I think that the joke responses risk burying or discouraging honest answers.)

100% agree. You are hearing the dictator claim righteousness.

Re: Sam Altman Slams Meta’s AI Talent Poaching: 'Missionaries Will Beat Mercenaries'

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I like sama and many other folks at OpenAI, but I have to call things how I see them: "What Meta is doing will, in my opinion, lead to very deep cultural problems. We will have more to share about this soon but it's very important to me we do it fairly and not just for people who Meta happened to target." Translation from corporate-speak: "We're not as rich as Meta." "Most importantly of all, I think we have the most…

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