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'Unprecedented' alerts in France as blistering heat grips Europe

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Re: 'Unprecedented' alerts in France as blistering heat grips Europe

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As someone living in Spain, this is the only time of the year when I'm happy to go to the office. Yet, I think people need a tutorial on how to use the AC: it's 38ºC outside, but in my cubicle it's about 19ºC - I would be OK with 26ºC.

19 degrees is crazy, I thought that offices and public buildings were limited to 25 degrees?

EDIT: I didn't search too long but I found an article from a few years ago talking about the limit being 27 degrees. https://www.elnacional.cat/es/economia/sanchez-limita-aire-a...

Re: 'Unprecedented' alerts in France as blistering heat grips Europe

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Normal summer weather is used to install anxiety in the minds of the populace, so they will easier accept future draconian measures.

40 C is extremely high for Paris. Why lie about information that is easy to lookup? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extreme_temperatures_i...

It’s always entertaining that those warning of science being used to introduce tyrrany are gleefully embracing tyrrany in the next breath.

Re: 'Unprecedented' alerts in France as blistering heat grips Europe

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How do you define "the same people"? Everyone who publishes weather data? What agenda do you think people have that are long dead? If you distrust everything you can measure it yourself. I am still in youth and even I can see changes myself. There used to be snow in the winter and now it's rare for example. Yes that is weather not climate; I don't live long enough to see climate changes. But there are oil paintings f…

I have no idea if they have their own agenda, but their ends (such as supporting private transportation and meat consumption) I support. Even if I didn’t trust them, and I don’t trust them either, the ends justify the means.

My God the radicalisation funnel produces some utter brain rot. Unsubstantiated accusations, slippery positions designed to distance your moral culpability in the consequences of your actions. Seriously, read yourself sometime.

Re: 'Unprecedented' alerts in France as blistering heat grips Europe

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have no idea if they have their own agenda, but their ends (such as supporting private transportation and meat consumption) I support. Even if I didn’t trust them, and I don’t trust them either, the ends justify the means.

Do you despise public transport as a concept or just the current subpar implementation? I think climate research is orthogonal to any political agenda, i.e. opposing private transportation and meat consumption doesn't follow from accepting that the climate is getting warmer and the validity of political agendas has no effect on the authenticity of climate research data.

I don’t really care too much about what happens to public transportation as long as I’m not forced to use it, which is what they want to do.

Re: 'Unprecedented' alerts in France as blistering heat grips Europe

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If policy makers were smarter technocrats, they would know that passive cooling film technology exists now and can cool surfaces below ambient by rejecting sunlight and having high thermal emissivity (unlike metallic reflectors). Add this everywhere to reduce A/C and lower urban heat island effects.

It’s basically performs optically like snow. Paint doesn’t work because it gets dirty too fast, films can incorporate anti-fouling tech.

Delivery companies are already putting these on their vehicles (look at the top of UPS trucks in the US, if there is a giant white rectangle, that’s it).

Re: 'Unprecedented' alerts in France as blistering heat grips Europe

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There is nothing normal about this, as you can easily verify by looking at recorded weather history.

It would seem foolish to trust the temperature records from the same people who want to install draconian measures using temperatures as an excuse.

Temperature is one of the easiest things to measure.

We know the effect of urban heat islands, stations sitting issues, mercury to thermistors upgrade transitions, time of observation bias, etc.

What we do with this data is a political situation, as the world is in a cooling cycle globally: https://www.climate.gov/media/16817

We have the technology to mitigate all of this, but not a critical baseline of education in the population to make the necessary sacrifices.

Re: 'Unprecedented' alerts in France as blistering heat grips Europe

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post #15
post #9

Normal summer weather is used to install anxiety in the minds of the populace, so they will easier accept future draconian measures.

40 C is extremely high for Paris. Why lie about information that is easy to lookup? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extreme_temperatures_i...

https://www.extremeweatherwatch.com/cities/paris/highest-tem...

Re: 'Unprecedented' alerts in France as blistering heat grips Europe

#40

If policy makers were smarter technocrats, they would know that passive cooling film technology exists now and can cool surfaces below ambient by rejecting sunlight and having high thermal emissivity (unlike metallic reflectors). Add this everywhere to reduce A/C and lower urban heat island effects. It’s basically performs optically like snow. Paint doesn’t work because it gets dirty too fast, films can incorporate a…

As someone who lives in Canada, I can say "performs optically like snow" can be completely blinding. Still, it seems like a good idea as long as we're careful about sight lines.
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