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Loss of key US satellite data could send hurricane forecasting back 'decades'

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Re: Loss of key US satellite data could send hurricane forecasting back 'decades'

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Is the satellite link encrypted? Maybe radio amateurs can continue to receive its signals.

No encryption*. I think they broadcast on S-band which isn't necessarily compatible with a $20 hobbyist rtl-sdr, but still possible with more advanced amateur setups

* Ok that's an oversimplification. They actually turn encryption on while the satellite is over certain areas. But if you're in the Continental US I think it's in the clear

Re: Loss of key US satellite data could send hurricane forecasting back 'decades'

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>The loss of DMSP comes as Noaa’s weather and climate monitoring services have become critically understaffed this year as Donald Trump’s so-called “department of government efficiency” (Doge) initiative has instilled draconian cuts to federal environmental programs. Translation: "We can't actually say this was DOGE, so we're going to imply it using emotionally charged words, and 90% of folks with bad media literacy…

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Re: Loss of key US satellite data could send hurricane forecasting back 'decades'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, when the media lies it's bad . People used to understand that fact. Now media gets a free pass on certain lies because Bad Man Bad, and (evidently) people aren't even allowed to point out the lie. Hint: when the media can make up whatever they want about someone, they can quickly twist perception to make anyone into the Bad Man.

Your premise that they're "lying" is unsubstantiated. Your comments read only like dress around the "fake news" bit.

Before you claim there's nothing happening and The Guardian didn't mean it, check social media comments elsewhere to see how many people misinterpret this news item into "DOGE/Elon did it."

I would bet you, but that money's too easy. :)

Again, this exact conversation is the genius behind 'lying _without lying_.' You can always claim in high-literacy communities like HN that no, nobody would ever be silly enough misread it like that, all while watching your misinformation spread across the low-literacy communities like facebook and reddit.

The Guardian et al has done this too often for plausible deniability. Even I can pick up on the pattern, and that's without access to the big boy's social media engagement and sentiment tracking tools.

Re: Loss of key US satellite data could send hurricane forecasting back 'decades'

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Good grief. American KH-11 electro-optical spy satellites have 2.4 meter primary mirrors and orbit at ~300km or less. Ease yourself off the anti-Musk subreddits or wherever you're getting this incoherent nonsense.

Re: Loss of key US satellite data could send hurricane forecasting back 'decades'

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, when the media lies it's bad . People used to understand that fact. Now media gets a free pass on certain lies because Bad Man Bad, and (evidently) people aren't even allowed to point out the lie. Hint: when the media can make up whatever they want about someone, they can quickly twist perception to make anyone into the Bad Man.

Did DOGE not ditch hundreds of probationary employees at NOAA, cancel numerous contracts, get 1000 people to take early retirement offers, get rid of buildings, etc? And now the current funding request enacts a ~30% funding cut. I'm not sure the factual issue you're seeing. Is it that the statement wasn't definitive enough in saying that DOGE apparently was a large part of instituting these cuts? (Yes, I know OPM imp…

My understanding is this was set up to happen roughly a decade ago and is just now manifesting. It has pretty much nothing to do with DOGE.

Re: Loss of key US satellite data could send hurricane forecasting back 'decades'

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It's part of the Administration's war on ... Florida?

I was about to say this -- the impact is to deep red states -- Florida, Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama.

They all voted for this with extreme skew towards the current policies. What is the point of trying to save this satellite data if the very people most affected dont care for it?

Re: Loss of key US satellite data could send hurricane forecasting back 'decades'

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It's part of the Administration's war on ... Florida?

It could help lower insurance costs.

The rebuilds happen with federal FEMA dollars and there is an entire cottage industry of re-builders who take federal funds, rebuild homes -- and then do it again two years later. https://www.fema.gov/node/what-home-repair-assistance
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