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The Hollow Men of Hims

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Re: The Hollow Men of Hims

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Post by jrflowers »

Spooky23 wrote: post #21
yold__ wrote: post #12

Semaglutide / GLP-1 compounding is not limited to just Hims. Lot's of pharmacies do it. The manufacturer (Novo Nordisk) charges 5x-10x for the exact same thing. The author calls the GLP-1s used in compounding "Chinese Knockoffs", but offers no evidence of quality control problems, and is instead relying on the reader's prejudices. GLP-1 drugs may be a game-changer for obesity and diabetes, the same way that cholester…

The problem with your position is simple: where does it come from? The legit path for compounded semaglutide is buying up Rybelsus, impacting the supply for diabetics. Compounding pharmacies are notoriously shady, and are likely using grey market materials from questionable sources.

Can you give some specific examples of compounding pharmacies buying up Rybelsus or using grey market GLP-1

Re: The Hollow Men of Hims

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Post by WalterSear »

ggm-at-algebras wrote: post #26
turnsout wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I am unsure why you have been down voted because fundamentally your point is correct. Health is a fully regulated space, and no entity should be supplying medical products without adherence to requirements appropriate to their role. Compounding GLP-1 seems to me to be in the higher bar space.

I'd hazard the downvotes are due to the existing toxic relationship between legislation and the medical cartel.

Re: The Hollow Men of Hims

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Post by theturtle »

Those commercials are inane and stupid (along with BlueChew and FridayPlans).

"The shameful doctor visits."

The what? Seriously, doctors in urology and related fields have seen guys whose dicks haven't just malfunctioned, they were BLOWN OFF, so shame really isn't a factor here!

Re: The Hollow Men of Hims

#34

Post by alphazard »

binarymax wrote: post #13
jackdeansmith wrote: post #7

>The real tragedy is not that Hims exists, but that it works so perfectly. Every day, thousands of people choose their compounded weight-loss drugs over FDA-approved alternatives, their combination ED pills over established single-ingredient treatments, their algorithmic consultations over actual medical care. They make these choices not because the products are better, but because the entire experience has been opti…

It’s possible for both you and the article to be right. The system sucks, but Hims are also terrible, and medical care should not be like Amazon prime.

> and medical care should not be like Amazon prime.

Speak for yourself; that is exactly what I want. And anyone else who wants a similar experience should be able to purchase it.

Re: The Hollow Men of Hims

#35

Post by bevr1337 »

Spooky23 wrote: post #21
yold__ wrote: post #12

Semaglutide / GLP-1 compounding is not limited to just Hims. Lot's of pharmacies do it. The manufacturer (Novo Nordisk) charges 5x-10x for the exact same thing. The author calls the GLP-1s used in compounding "Chinese Knockoffs", but offers no evidence of quality control problems, and is instead relying on the reader's prejudices. GLP-1 drugs may be a game-changer for obesity and diabetes, the same way that cholester…

The problem with your position is simple: where does it come from? The legit path for compounded semaglutide is buying up Rybelsus, impacting the supply for diabetics. Compounding pharmacies are notoriously shady, and are likely using grey market materials from questionable sources.

> Compounding pharmacies are notoriously shady, and are likely using grey market materials from questionable sources.

Are they? Compounding pharmacies are common and boring. If someone hasn't yet used a compounding pharmacy then it's likely they're in very good health -- yay for them!

What's being described doesn't feel like an issue with compounding rather folks setting up shop to peddle questionable drugs.

Re: The Hollow Men of Hims

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Post by bickfordb »

Spooky23 wrote: post #21
yold__ wrote: post #12

Semaglutide / GLP-1 compounding is not limited to just Hims. Lot's of pharmacies do it. The manufacturer (Novo Nordisk) charges 5x-10x for the exact same thing. The author calls the GLP-1s used in compounding "Chinese Knockoffs", but offers no evidence of quality control problems, and is instead relying on the reader's prejudices. GLP-1 drugs may be a game-changer for obesity and diabetes, the same way that cholester…

The problem with your position is simple: where does it come from? The legit path for compounded semaglutide is buying up Rybelsus, impacting the supply for diabetics. Compounding pharmacies are notoriously shady, and are likely using grey market materials from questionable sources.

Is there evidence that compounded Semaglutide from Hims pharmacies has harmed anyone?

Re: The Hollow Men of Hims

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Post by Spooky23 »

jackdeansmith wrote: post #7

>The real tragedy is not that Hims exists, but that it works so perfectly. Every day, thousands of people choose their compounded weight-loss drugs over FDA-approved alternatives, their combination ED pills over established single-ingredient treatments, their algorithmic consultations over actual medical care. They make these choices not because the products are better, but because the entire experience has been opti…

I helped setup vaccination sites during the pandemic. One thing that struck me was how the providers who were working and the patients were all like “this is so much easier than normal medical care”.

Hims is like that.

Re: The Hollow Men of Hims

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Post by beejiu »

jackdeansmith wrote: post #7

>The real tragedy is not that Hims exists, but that it works so perfectly. Every day, thousands of people choose their compounded weight-loss drugs over FDA-approved alternatives, their combination ED pills over established single-ingredient treatments, their algorithmic consultations over actual medical care. They make these choices not because the products are better, but because the entire experience has been opti…

But access to medical treatment, particularly drugs, should be "paternalistic", so I strongly agree.

Re: The Hollow Men of Hims

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Post by turnsout »

ggm-at-algebras wrote: post #26
turnsout wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

I am unsure why you have been down voted because fundamentally your point is correct. Health is a fully regulated space, and no entity should be supplying medical products without adherence to requirements appropriate to their role. Compounding GLP-1 seems to me to be in the higher bar space.

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