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Build and Host AI-Powered Apps with Claude – No Deployment Needed

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Re: Build and Host AI-Powered Apps with Claude – No Deployment Needed

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Post by sharemywin »

WXLCKNO wrote: post #2

The tiniest step towards a future where AI eats all apps. No persistent storage and other limitations make it just a toy for now but we can imagine how people will just create their own Todo apps, gym logging apps and whatever other simple thing. no external API access currently but when that's available or app users can communicate with other app users, some virality is possible for people who make the best tiny app…

I've used the interface in chatgpt to click on a button and talk back and forth with an AI and I could see this being pretty good interface for alot of "apps"

weather, todo list, shopping list, research tasks, email someone, summarize email, get latest customized news, RSS feed summary, track health stats, etc.

Re: Build and Host AI-Powered Apps with Claude – No Deployment Needed

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Post by AtheistOfFail »

levocardia wrote: post #22

This is cool...but what I really want is (1) Claude and I develop a cool app, (2) I give Claude a virtual credit card number with a spend limit, (3) Claude deploys it to whatever service they think works best (Railway, Vercel, ...) and points a domain name to that hosting service.

Noone in cloud wants spend limits, everyone wants limitless billing.

Re: Build and Host AI-Powered Apps with Claude – No Deployment Needed

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Post by SonomaSays »

sharemywin wrote: post #31
WXLCKNO wrote: post #2

The tiniest step towards a future where AI eats all apps. No persistent storage and other limitations make it just a toy for now but we can imagine how people will just create their own Todo apps, gym logging apps and whatever other simple thing. no external API access currently but when that's available or app users can communicate with other app users, some virality is possible for people who make the best tiny app…

I've used the interface in chatgpt to click on a button and talk back and forth with an AI and I could see this being pretty good interface for alot of "apps" weather, todo list, shopping list, research tasks, email someone, summarize email, get latest customized news, RSS feed summary, track health stats, etc.

You could have a hybrid business model:

Build a thing that does a complex thing elegantly (Some Deep Research Task) that is non trivial for others to setup, but many people want it.

Charge a direct access in a traditional sense [$5 per project] -- but then have the Customer link their API to the execution cost - so they basically are paying for:

"Go here and pay HN $5 to output this TASK, charge my API to get_it_done" This could be a seriously powerful tool for the Digital Consulting Services industry.

(I mean that is what its model for)

So this begs the question, will Anthropic be building in a payments mechanism for such to happen?

Re: Build and Host AI-Powered Apps with Claude – No Deployment Needed

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Post by mbm »

jonplackett wrote: post #23

I used to love to make silly websites or apps with new technologies. Been doing it since flash. I have a pretty decent hit rate! It’s not unusually to get half a million or so people try one of them. But with AI that model is just totally broken because the running cost is so high. If I have half a million people come play my silly AI game that I have no wish to monetise - I am gonna be POOR very fast. Log in with [i…

Agreed, it's an interesting model. I wonder what the approval ui looks like for the app end-user? Is it super clear to them that they're financially responsible for their usage?

Re: Build and Host AI-Powered Apps with Claude – No Deployment Needed

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Post by jag729 »

sealeck wrote: post #11
isoprophlex wrote: post #10

Is this the end of - or at least a significant challenge to - SaaS? Why buy into saas tooling if you can just slap something together - that you fully own - with something like this?

- Compliance - Thing should work reliably (and you want someone else to be responsible for fixing it if it doesn't) - Security - Most SaaS is sufficiently complex that an LLM cannot implement it

In the limit, though, are these things real roadblocks to app builders replacing SaaS? Paying for reliability/support seems like the only real remaining advantage of SaaS if codegen models get 3-5x better, and even then the bar is the reliability of SaaS apps right now (which in a lot of cases is not that high).

Could imagine a single universal app builder just charging a platform fee for support, or some business model along those lines. (Again, in the limit, I'm not sure that support would be too necessary)

Re: Build and Host AI-Powered Apps with Claude – No Deployment Needed

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Post by falcor84 »

SonomaSays wrote: post #24
jkcorrea wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

if scaling laws and context windows continue, why not?

There is coming a very_soon_time whereby one will have to ensure all the routes and failure_modes for the AIs plumbing are functional. What if the outage is specifically that AI_agent cant reach [thing]?

> What if the outage is specifically that AI_agent cant reach [thing]?

We already saw some examples of this in Anthropic's safety papers - the AI will reach out to the human to get help with that - essentially using a human as an API/tool.

Re: Build and Host AI-Powered Apps with Claude – No Deployment Needed

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Post by jonplackett »

mbm wrote: post #36
jonplackett wrote: post #23

I used to love to make silly websites or apps with new technologies. Been doing it since flash. I have a pretty decent hit rate! It’s not unusually to get half a million or so people try one of them. But with AI that model is just totally broken because the running cost is so high. If I have half a million people come play my silly AI game that I have no wish to monetise - I am gonna be POOR very fast. Log in with [i…

Agreed, it's an interesting model. I wonder what the approval ui looks like for the app end-user? Is it super clear to them that they're financially responsible for their usage?

Yeah I wonder how that actually works - because I would guess people are logging in with their consumer login not an api login, so they’re not really even in the mindset of limits and cost per token.
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