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Microsoft's big lie: Your computer is fine, and you don't need to buy a new one

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Re: Microsoft's big lie: Your computer is fine, and you don't need to buy a new one

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post #28

> Microsoft has a long history of playing fast-and-loose with the truth. And that’s again the case with Windows 10 coming to its supposed “end of life” this fall. I can’t take an article seriously, whatever merits it might have, if this is the opening gambit. “End of life” is a fairly common term of art amongst software and hardware OEMs. Windows 10 is going to be end of life. No scare quotes needed.

This probably refers to the fact that Windows XP still has support contracts. Microsoft commonly calls their software EOL and then supports it for 5+ years. I don't think that's a bad thing, but they tend to use it more as a marketing term than a true hard line where security fixes stop going out.

Re: Microsoft's big lie: Your computer is fine, and you don't need to buy a new one

#33
post #22

Every time this happens, I wonder why people do not just drop Windows entirely.

Like it or not, Linux is still not really user friendly compared to a windows computer. Users still have to do command line stuff, and the software you are used to is not available. The equivalents are not as shiny as the windows versions. Macs might be too expensive for some people who are still running on old hardware.

Re: Microsoft's big lie: Your computer is fine, and you don't need to buy a new one

#35
post #28

> Microsoft has a long history of playing fast-and-loose with the truth. And that’s again the case with Windows 10 coming to its supposed “end of life” this fall. I can’t take an article seriously, whatever merits it might have, if this is the opening gambit. “End of life” is a fairly common term of art amongst software and hardware OEMs. Windows 10 is going to be end of life. No scare quotes needed.

The funniest thing about this is that any major security indicent with Windows 10 after EOL would obviously get fixed by Microsoft because it would be so existentially terrible for them to point to the fine print and ignore it. But you can't stop outrage journalism.

Re: Microsoft's big lie: Your computer is fine, and you don't need to buy a new one

#36
post #22

Every time this happens, I wonder why people do not just drop Windows entirely.

You'd have to know what an operating system is, that you can install a different one than Windows, and still be able to run all of your software on the new one or acceptable substitutes.

Re: Microsoft's big lie: Your computer is fine, and you don't need to buy a new one

#38
post #28

> Microsoft has a long history of playing fast-and-loose with the truth. And that’s again the case with Windows 10 coming to its supposed “end of life” this fall. I can’t take an article seriously, whatever merits it might have, if this is the opening gambit. “End of life” is a fairly common term of art amongst software and hardware OEMs. Windows 10 is going to be end of life. No scare quotes needed.

The funniest thing about this is that any major security indicent with Windows 10 after EOL would obviously get fixed by Microsoft because it would be so existentially terrible for them to point to the fine print and ignore it. But you can't stop outrage journalism.

So the piece is right: it's not actually end of life.

Re: Microsoft's big lie: Your computer is fine, and you don't need to buy a new one

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows has supported hardware encryption for a very long time. I support various machines owned by my family that are hardware encrypted spanning across the last 15 years. All work on Windows 10 and are encrypted with Bitlocker (or that invisible Home edition "device encryption" version). They don't support Windows 11.

… and all those things that Windows 10 “supports“ can be much more easily bypassed without TPM and secure boot. Lots of things not to like about Win11 but force-dragging their manufacturers and customers into 2010s era security is long overdue.

Would you pay for my security? If not then, well, "be quiet".

Re: Microsoft's big lie: Your computer is fine, and you don't need to buy a new one

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post #22

Every time this happens, I wonder why people do not just drop Windows entirely.

1. Windows comes pre-installed. That means >99% of users (and I mean this literally) will not even consider running anything else (probably they don't even realise there's such a thing as not-Windows on a PC).

2. Enterprise software runs on Windows, that creates enough lock-in for Windows to always be a majority.

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