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YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

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Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

#31

I'm surprised they don't just inject the ads directly into the video stream, I think that would solve their issue overnight (not that I want any ads personally). You could also rate-limit it to the playback speed to prevent pre-downloading the stream easily. But now that everything uses HLS/DASH, it's easy to inject different content right in the middle of the stream without re-encoding anything.

Creators will never accept it.

Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

#32

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I don't want to use it. I only view because others exclusively host content there. If people hosted video elsewhere, I would gladly never visit youtube again. Creators are not going to start paying for uploads when they can push their costs to the viewers.

Why do you think the creators you like exclusively host content on YouTube?

That's not difficult to answer, it's because it's free / they get paid.

Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

#33
post #6

What if people just paid for services they use and depend on frequently

What if Google didn't horde whatever data it could about me from the analytics systems that it has installed on a myriad of websites without my consent?

What if Google wasn't a monopoly who amassed insane amounts of capital to do this?

What if Google didn't lobby governments around the world for special treatment?

Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

#34
post #29

Having to pay for something so that's "less annoying" is the worst business model. YouTube Premium is very expensive. I had it for a while when I got a Pixel smartphone with a few months of YouTube Premium included. It was great. I also understand that streaming on this scale must entail incredibly high operating costs; the money has to come from somewhere. It's simply a dilemma. But there has to be a better way. Any…

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Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

#35

I'm surprised they don't just inject the ads directly into the video stream, I think that would solve their issue overnight (not that I want any ads personally). You could also rate-limit it to the playback speed to prevent pre-downloading the stream easily. But now that everything uses HLS/DASH, it's easy to inject different content right in the middle of the stream without re-encoding anything.

I've also wondered about this for a long time. It seems like there must be something difficult about it, but I can't even guess. Otherwise it seems like they would be, no?

Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

#36
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I think that’s a rationalization. Most people just don’t like ads no matter what they are. And I can’t blame them, ads are terrible. But this is a case where they offer a nice subscription that takes them all away, so people ought to buy that instead.

The YT Premium subscription suffers from being low value imo, forced bundling with YT Music which inflates prices, and little to no synergy with Google One subscriptions in most countries.

They offer a cheaper version that isn't bundled with Youtube Music, but then you get ads on official music uploads since I guess that's how the licensing works out. https://www.youtube.com/premiumlite

Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

#38
post #14

YouTube Premium costs about the same as 2 cold brew coffees and is worth the money.

Paying 13 bucks per month, which is a non trivial amount for a lot of people if it competes with other subcription services, merely to block ads on a website that doesn't even produce its own content is in my opinion one of the worst deals on the internet.

That's equivalent to a Netflix subscription, which puts what, 20 billion into original content each year?

Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

#39

I get they want to work against ad blockers, but as a Premium member I really wish there was an easy way to watch a video without it polluting my history or recommendations. I don't want to watch ads just due to that.

You can remove videos from your watch history and in my experience that does have an impact on the recommendations as it's not factored in anymore

Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

#40

If they ran less hostile ads, people wouldn't be as hostile to watching their ads. Some of the ads they run are just ridiculous and awful. Ads for scams, soft-core porn ads, just the worst of the worst.

I don't get such nasty ads, but the ones I get are extremely repetitive. I see the same 3 ads all the time: one for a car, one for a bank, one for clothes.
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