Why China is giving away its tech for free • Hacker News Board

Re: Why China is giving away its tech for free

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Post by bpt3 » Wed, Jun 25, 2025, 2:59 PM UTC

scotty79 wrote: post #26

bpt3 wrote: post #23

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A major distinction is that someone has to actually produce the content you want to consume, unlike air (though we are trying to make clean air more scarce), which is why no one owns air. How is software, music, or any other easily copied product created and distributed under your system?

Patronage, crowdsourcing and crowdfunding, volunteering. Anything that doesn't require putting a policeman, either real or virtual, behind every users back.

Sure, that's worked out super well for open source software creators over and over, and they're not taken advantage of in any way.

Re: Why China is giving away its tech for free

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Post by Atlas667 » Wed, Jun 25, 2025, 5:49 PM UTC

bpt3 wrote: post #30

Atlas667 wrote: post #29

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The same way a lot of cool video content/research/products are: crowd source. Even air can be monetized if you have the right legal team and tech. And we're all random working class people who can't afford a good lawyer even when we need it so... go figure. Copying is built into all of our hardware/software. To keep extending copyright you have to either end privacy or neuter hardware/software.

So people can create digital things but have no permission to control how their creation is consumed or used? And only digital things have this limitation? Sounds like a recipe for many people to avoid sharing their digital creations with others. And your claim that those are the only two ways to give creators some control over their creations is absurd.

That IS the wonder of the digital age. Limits are artificial. Sharing is defacto.

A new world is struggling to be born; this is the time of monsters.

Capital WILL neuter all software and hardware to make their reality happen. Capital WILL make more and more invasive systems if it means a whole industry can stay alive. They can lobby, we cant. They have the money to influence, we dont. We have voices, but why would they listen to voices when they have profits?

Voting with your dollar is the biggest lie out there if you live in a monopoly system where you only get a few options or if you can't afford anything else. They are literally building digital prisons but people say its fine because we can choose the size of the cell and the color of the walls.

Re: Why China is giving away its tech for free

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Post by scotty79 » Thu, Jun 26, 2025, 10:03 PM UTC

bpt3 wrote: post #31

scotty79 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Patronage, crowdsourcing and crowdfunding, volunteering. Anything that doesn't require putting a policeman, either real or virtual, behind every users back.

Sure, that's worked out super well for open source software creators over and over, and they're not taken advantage of in any way.

People usually avoid getting taken advantage of. Yet, somehow open source software seems to only been growing. So maybe they aren't taken advantage of and something is wrong with your mental framework if that's your perception.