ELIZA Reanimated: Restoring the Mother of All Chatbots • Hacker News Board

Re: ELIZA Reanimated: Restoring the Mother of All Chatbots

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Post by bonoboTP » Sat, Jun 21, 2025, 9:01 AM UTC

spullara wrote: post #30

bonoboTP wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ELIZA is not an LLM. This site also doesn't say what program it is actually running, any details at all. It's just a chat box without any explanation.

does eliza need some kind of explanation?

Yes. Where they got it from, what version exactly it is, how it's implemented, etc.

Re: ELIZA Reanimated: Restoring the Mother of All Chatbots

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Post by cxr » Sat, Jun 21, 2025, 12:39 PM UTC

abrax3141 wrote: post #29

cxr wrote: post #9

Discussed in January: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42746506 >

Clarification: These papers are different enough that I don’t feel like I double dipped by posting both in HN, also the new pub is ... well, new. (Also, thank you for reminding me that I need to update the arXiv entry since it’s not been published!)

Not saying there was any double-dipping. Only pointing others to related discussion. (I myself added copies of both papers to my Zotero library—which isn't something I would have done if I thought they were duplicates.)

Re: ELIZA Reanimated: Restoring the Mother of All Chatbots

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Post by abrax3141 » Sun, Jun 22, 2025, 12:27 PM UTC

mullingitover wrote: post #27

Obligatory: the early 2000s web site 'aoliza' which turned vanilla Eliza loose on AOL Instant Messenger, with predictably hilarious results demonstrating that the Turing Test was beaten decades ago[1]. [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20030812213928/http://fury.com/a...

Holy S! How did I not know about this?! (I curate ElizaGen.org … where this is immediately going! DM me if you want cred by your rn on the elizagen news post; my rn and landline deets are in my hn about.)