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How Frogger 2’s source code was recovered from a destroyed tape [video]

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Re: How Frogger 2’s source code was recovered from a destroyed tape [video]

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Post by gortok »

MyPasswordSucks wrote: post #25
GEBBL wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel this was an ‘of it’s time’ thing, but I am so glad we have moved on from this. I wouldn’t enjoy working in a workplace where this was acceptable.

It's an ASCII art of a nude woman. So what? It just seems like such a busybody thing to get one's feathers ruffled over.

How about ascii art of a male penis every time you opened your IDE?

The point isn’t what you (MyPasswordSucks) would find objectionable, the point is what the median would find objectionable in a professional setting. Luckily we’ve gotten away from the locker room behavior being the median and now the median is approaching good-manners behavior. This is one of the situations where the Overton window shifting makes us better as a species instead of worse.

Re: How Frogger 2’s source code was recovered from a destroyed tape [video]

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Post by bayindirh »

msgodel wrote: post #30
bayindirh wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still design and add banners to my servers' MOTD to add a little fun to my day. No NSFW stuff, however.

Mine is a corporate style # rectangle but instead of legal crap it just says "msgodel's laptop/vps/robot/whatever\n Be Nice!"

Mine are old BBS style banners, generally glorifying the hostname, and a small tagline for the server itself, related to its function.

A hypothetical DNS server might greet you with "All your zones belong to us!".

Re: How Frogger 2’s source code was recovered from a destroyed tape [video]

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Post by Simran-B »

Another entertaining piece by the Lego Island guy!

My takeaway is that you should choose a passion project as your hobby and put in the time to learn and do whatever is necessary to achieve your goal on your own or together with similarly motivated people rather than relying on anyone external you have to pay - things go downhill fairly often and quickly it seems. Is any business a scam to some degree nowadays?

Re: How Frogger 2’s source code was recovered from a destroyed tape [video]

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Post by dylan604 »

I once wrote a DAM that wrote to LTO tapes just using tar. The tape was operated with forward/rewind commands from mt. Nobody needed access to the tapes until after I was no longer at the company. Apparently, they spent weeks trying to install various backup software to read the tapes, but none could. They eventually contacted me, but due to how much software they had tried to use the original computer it was attached to was no longer the OS. At that point, they asked 3rd party companies for help and eventually found someone with a drive attached to a Linux system. I was then able to walk them through how to read and extract data.

Tape storage can be an absolute nightmare. Most will do the writes, some will say they verify with a read, but few actually test with a full restore. Just because the software says it can read the tape to show you the listings does not mean it can read the files themselves. This was alluded to in TFA(TFV??) but been there done that on trying to read from a bum tape/bad write. It gets worse if you write in one tape drive and read from another also mentioned in TFV. Now I feel old just thinking about it all

Re: How Frogger 2’s source code was recovered from a destroyed tape [video]

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Post by javcasas »

Jean-Papoulos wrote: post #17
tomashubelbauer wrote: post #15

The source code: https://github.com/HighwayFrogs/frogger2-vss I enjoyed skimming through this: https://github.com/HighwayFrogs/frogger2-vss/blob/main/teamS...

Line 427 makes this game NSFW !

This is dedicated to the people in the other thread about forbidding swearwords in code.

Take this!

Re: How Frogger 2’s source code was recovered from a destroyed tape [video]

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Post by msgodel »

gortok wrote: post #31
MyPasswordSucks wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's an ASCII art of a nude woman. So what? It just seems like such a busybody thing to get one's feathers ruffled over.

How about ascii art of a male penis every time you opened your IDE? The point isn’t what you (MyPasswordSucks) would find objectionable, the point is what the median would find objectionable in a professional setting. Luckily we’ve gotten away from the locker room behavior being the median and now the median is approaching good-manners behavior. This is one of the situations where the Overton window shifting makes us…

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Re: How Frogger 2’s source code was recovered from a destroyed tape [video]

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Post by doublerabbit »

gortok wrote: post #31
MyPasswordSucks wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's an ASCII art of a nude woman. So what? It just seems like such a busybody thing to get one's feathers ruffled over.

How about ascii art of a male penis every time you opened your IDE? The point isn’t what you (MyPasswordSucks) would find objectionable, the point is what the median would find objectionable in a professional setting. Luckily we’ve gotten away from the locker room behavior being the median and now the median is approaching good-manners behavior. This is one of the situations where the Overton window shifting makes us…

> How about ascii art of a male penis every time you opened your IDE

I already do, it's called VSCode and it definitely operates like a phallus.

Re: How Frogger 2’s source code was recovered from a destroyed tape [video]

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Post by rietta »

sllabres wrote: post #4

A lot of work, but with success as reward! Makes you wonder how easy or difficult it will be in 30 years to 'recover' data from today.

Hard. I am slowly writing a book set in the future where we are a “digital dark age” where little to nothing is known about our time tentatively called Professor Bitrot.

Re: How Frogger 2’s source code was recovered from a destroyed tape [video]

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Post by bayindirh »

ljlolel wrote: post #7
dehrmann wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Makes you wonder how easy or difficult it will be in 30 years to 'recover' data from today. The challenges will be different. Flash loses its charge in 30 years, most disks are encrypted, and on-site physical backups are mostly a thing of the past. The source might survive in a cloud repo, but it'll either be tied up for legal reasons or deleted when the customer stops paying the bill. But storage is cheap and gett…

Easy. The “deleted” even overwritten data can leave ghosts even multiple layers deep (think of a clay tablet or painting with multiple inscriptions) Encryption for 30 years ago? Trivially breakable with quantum

Don't forget that flash drives are not accessed linearly. Your data might look linear to you, but without that sector addressing table, you're looking at noise.

On top of that static wear leveling can move all your data around when your disk is idle, and TRIM will effectively zero your unused areas when you are not looking.

So, it's a very different landscape.

Re: How Frogger 2’s source code was recovered from a destroyed tape [video]

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Post by rietta »

dehrmann wrote: post #6
sllabres wrote: post #4

A lot of work, but with success as reward! Makes you wonder how easy or difficult it will be in 30 years to 'recover' data from today.

> Makes you wonder how easy or difficult it will be in 30 years to 'recover' data from today. The challenges will be different. Flash loses its charge in 30 years, most disks are encrypted, and on-site physical backups are mostly a thing of the past. The source might survive in a cloud repo, but it'll either be tied up for legal reasons or deleted when the customer stops paying the bill. But storage is cheap and gett…

Data not continuously copied is lost. Ironically the most future proof media is becoming increasingly rare. Those gold layer dvds may last well into the future but the readers will not be available.
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