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Re: $100 Hamburger

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Post by cwillu »

kolinko wrote: post #13
phinnaeus wrote: post #5

> A group of pilots who had run out of hot cross buns on Good Friday decided to fly to the closest open bakery on Rottnest Island. I can't believe that a bakery (the one bakery) on Rotto would be the closest open bakery...

I don't know about Australia, but in Poland, on Easter and Christmass, I can easily believe there would be no single bakery open in the whole country. Also, it was before google maps, so they couldn't just google nearest open bakeries. It might as well have been "nearest open bakery they were aware of". Funny how modern tech made the terms "closest open" and "closest known open" virtually the same.

You sat down next to the phone with the phone book for ten minutes.

Re: $100 Hamburger

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Post by coldpie »

w10-1 wrote: post #20

It's a sickening feeling to realize that to justify spending $50-100K on a plane and $1K/mo on maintenance and storage, you need some excuse to actually fly the damn thing at least 30X each year at $100/hr. So no, it's not $100 and it's not a hamburger, but you gotta call it something in polite company.

I think we should eat the rich as much as the next guy, but a handful of aviation enthusiasts spending too much of their money on airplanes doesn't really break through the noise for me. We got bigger fish to fry.

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Post by technothrasher »

When I was in school, my dad's friend used to occasionally fly me home from Upstate NY to central MA in what were effectively $100 hamburger runs, just to get his flight hours in. My father-in-law also loves to tell me his stories of flying Navy T-33 trainer jets to DC in the 1950's just as an excuse to visit his girlfriend (who later became his wife).

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Post by bloggie »

w10-1 wrote: post #20

It's a sickening feeling to realize that to justify spending $50-100K on a plane and $1K/mo on maintenance and storage, you need some excuse to actually fly the damn thing at least 30X each year at $100/hr. So no, it's not $100 and it's not a hamburger, but you gotta call it something in polite company.

The plane, upkeep, and hourly rate cost a fair bit more than that these days

Re: $100 Hamburger

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Post by bombcar »

dyauspitr wrote: post #19
paulpauper wrote: post #2

However, increasing fuel prices have since caused an increase in hourly operating costs for most airplanes, and a Cessna 172 now costs US$95–180[3] per Hobbs hour to rent, including fuel.[4] I had no idea it is so cheap to rent a Cessna. A private jet is easily 20x that

A private jet comes with a crew and a pilot. This is a plane you have to fly yourself.

You can often find a flight instructor willing to build hours at rates as low as $15/hr.

Re: $100 Hamburger

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Post by bombcar »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #26
djmips wrote: post #18

I mean it's 2025 and real hamburgers are edging up in price so that $100 hamburger isn't thaat far away.

There’s a number of “boutique burger” places around here, where the burgers start at $20, and most diners charge $16 for a normal burger. I hear that NYC can get downright crazy.

Non-NY fast food places have gotten close to or breached $10 for the burger.

I still remember the “six dollar burger” at CJ.

Re: $100 Hamburger

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Post by bombcar »

rcxdude wrote: post #30
w10-1 wrote: post #20

It's a sickening feeling to realize that to justify spending $50-100K on a plane and $1K/mo on maintenance and storage, you need some excuse to actually fly the damn thing at least 30X each year at $100/hr. So no, it's not $100 and it's not a hamburger, but you gotta call it something in polite company.

Only a tiny minority of pilots own the aircraft they fly, and all the context I've heard of $100 hamburgers in is when someone needs to log a certain number of flight hours to keep their license current (in the UK you need to on average do a flight once every two months to keep your license)

Most GA pilots rent or share ownership such that the $150/hr is “wet” and all inclusive - fuel, maintenance, capital costs, etc.

The planes at $150/hr are often considerably older than the pilot.

Re: $100 Hamburger

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

bombcar wrote: post #36
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s a number of “boutique burger” places around here, where the burgers start at $20, and most diners charge $16 for a normal burger. I hear that NYC can get downright crazy.

Non-NY fast food places have gotten close to or breached $10 for the burger. I still remember the “six dollar burger” at CJ.

When I was a teenager, I was in a boarding school (1975 or so).

When we went on trips, we’d get $2 for lunch.

At McDonald’s, I could get 6 cheeseburgers and a Coke for that (I was a teen. I had no problem, eating them all).

Re: $100 Hamburger

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Post by bdcravens »

A "joke" (will probably actually happen) in our company is that when we hit a certain revenue number, we'll reward ourselves by flying to Philadelphia in the morning, having a Philly Cheesesteak for lunch, and then fly home. Of course it won't be a private jet, but probably Southwest.

Re: $100 Hamburger

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Post by kdndnrndn »

petesergeant wrote: post #8
paulpauper wrote: post #2

However, increasing fuel prices have since caused an increase in hourly operating costs for most airplanes, and a Cessna 172 now costs US$95–180[3] per Hobbs hour to rent, including fuel.[4] I had no idea it is so cheap to rent a Cessna. A private jet is easily 20x that

A private jet is a jet, where a Cessna 172 is a small unpressurised prop plane that dawdles along at 1/3 the speed and is uncomfortable to be a passenger in…

It's speed is also lower than many cars on the Autobahn at ~300 km/h

Granted, there's less of a risk of traffic in the sky than on the Autobahn

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