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US-backed Israeli company's spyware used to target European journalists

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Re: US-backed Israeli company's spyware used to target European journalists

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Post by yoavm »

noworriesnate wrote: post #15
dismalaf wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I mean, in a broad sense this is true. But do you really think Sam Altman wouldn’t be in the news if he wasn’t Jewish? What about SBF? Or go back further, do you think people know about Einstein or Karl Marx only because they were Jewish? Like it or not, Jews have been involved at a high level in a lot of pivotal developments in the west.

I don't think that "No Jews No News" hints that Altman is in the news only because he's Jewish. It means that people care about _bad things_ more when they're done by Jews. The fact that Einstein is Einstein and Marx is Marx is only relevant if you're claiming that the reason people like blaming Jews is due to jealously of their relative success.

Re: US-backed Israeli company's spyware used to target European journalists

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Post by Swenrekcah »

linotype wrote: post #6
breppp wrote: post #4

It's amazing that US and Israel are the only countries mentioned in the headline While the story itself is about Italy spying on a journalist in another EU country But I guess news sites needs them clicks

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People want the US to ensure peace. The problem is that the US has in recent months turned away from that and is instead promoting unrest, both home and abroad.

Re: US-backed Israeli company's spyware used to target European journalists

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Post by croes »

dismalaf wrote: post #11
breppp wrote: post #4

It's amazing that US and Israel are the only countries mentioned in the headline While the story itself is about Italy spying on a journalist in another EU country But I guess news sites needs them clicks

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Then explain all the news about Musk and Trump.

Re: US-backed Israeli company's spyware used to target European journalists

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Post by kennywinker »

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF wrote: post #23
kennywinker wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their motivation is they are fascists. Like not in an “anything I don’t like is fascism” kinda way - literal fascists. If you’d like to know more about them, an article in the AP isn’t the right place to find more. But it is a good way to let people know what the US is funding in the world.

Your comment is about the US but their question about "motivation" was concerning Italy. As in, why is Italy spying on a journalist in a different EU country?

No my comment is about the italian gov being literal fascists. I wasn’t bothering to comment on the US gov

Re: US-backed Israeli company's spyware used to target European journalists

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Post by neoromantique »

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF wrote: post #23
kennywinker wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their motivation is they are fascists. Like not in an “anything I don’t like is fascism” kinda way - literal fascists. If you’d like to know more about them, an article in the AP isn’t the right place to find more. But it is a good way to let people know what the US is funding in the world.

Your comment is about the US but their question about "motivation" was concerning Italy. As in, why is Italy spying on a journalist in a different EU country?

I think by them being Italian (hint) he meant 'fascist' in quite literal sense.

Re: US-backed Israeli company's spyware used to target European journalists

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Post by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF »

kennywinker wrote: post #34
lcnPylGDnU4H9OF wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your comment is about the US but their question about "motivation" was concerning Italy. As in, why is Italy spying on a journalist in a different EU country?

No my comment is about the italian gov being literal fascists. I wasn’t bothering to comment on the US gov

I see, my mistake. I think I just got confused by some of the other statements in your comments.

Re: US-backed Israeli company's spyware used to target European journalists

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Post by wesselbindt »

linotype wrote: post #6
breppp wrote: post #4

It's amazing that US and Israel are the only countries mentioned in the headline While the story itself is about Italy spying on a journalist in another EU country But I guess news sites needs them clicks

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Goodness me where oh where could that anti US bias come from? Couldn't be the illegal bombing of Cambodia and Laos during the Vietnam War, couldn't be arming the Guatamalans who carried out the silent Holocaust, couldn't be arming the Turks while they were slaughtering Kurds, couldn't be the illegal invasion of Iraq, killing up to a million people, and torturing others without due process, ultimately leading to violent blowback from Islamic extremists in Europe in the form of terrorist attacks. Couldn't be providing billions of dollars in weapons for Israel to carry out its genocide, likely leading to even more blowback across the globe. No, surely it's because they're _ungrateful_.

Re: US-backed Israeli company's spyware used to target European journalists

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Post by antithesizer »

croes wrote: post #21
breppp wrote: post #4

It's amazing that US and Israel are the only countries mentioned in the headline While the story itself is about Italy spying on a journalist in another EU country But I guess news sites needs them clicks

Most of the time the country of the creator is named if it’s about spyware. The misuse of such tools outweighs the legitimate use cases, so people want to know who is so reckless to sell these programs

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Re: US-backed Israeli company's spyware used to target European journalists

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Post by andsoitis »

kennywinker wrote: post #8
breppp wrote: post #4

It's amazing that US and Israel are the only countries mentioned in the headline While the story itself is about Italy spying on a journalist in another EU country But I guess news sites needs them clicks

Headlines are written by the publisher not the author. They’re written to maximize readership. The fact that spying happened in italy by italians is mostly only interesting to italians. The fact that the US backs an israeli company that sells spying tools is interesting to many more people. You can see the selling clicks, but because they’re not twisting the truth or saying something misleading - in this case I mostl…

> They’re written to maximize readership.

And to shape narrative!

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