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Re: Seedance 1.0

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Post by littlestymaar »

Intralexical wrote: post #26
thebestmoshe wrote: post #5

The future is something like the TikTok algorithm, but generated on the fly. As you scroll, it learns what you like and generates more videos.

I think this is an unfortunate misunderstanding of why people like and use social media. ChatGPT can already generate endless "comments". And yet you're here.

You must have missed a train or two over the past fifteen years, so called “social media” have very little to do with the social part they used to, they are mostly algorithmically driven dopamine shots to capture user's attention, and TikTok is the purest form of it.

Re: Seedance 1.0

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Post by pizzathyme »

thebestmoshe wrote: post #5

The future is something like the TikTok algorithm, but generated on the fly. As you scroll, it learns what you like and generates more videos.

With enough context fed into the model of what you react to, the content will be so mesmerizing that you won't be able to look away

This is chilling and also seems inevitable long term

Re: Seedance 1.0

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Post by aradox66 »

pizzathyme wrote: post #32
thebestmoshe wrote: post #5

The future is something like the TikTok algorithm, but generated on the fly. As you scroll, it learns what you like and generates more videos.

With enough context fed into the model of what you react to, the content will be so mesmerizing that you won't be able to look away This is chilling and also seems inevitable long term

I imagine there are some boundary constraints - mobile video can only be so compelling. I would guess we're already pretty close to that threshold.

Re: Seedance 1.0

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Post by robviren »

I look forward to a day when capabilities like this are trivial and boring to the average person. When my phone (locally) will be able to generate a fully voice acted 24 episode series anime on a whim for a meme with my group chat. It's astounding what we can do now, but will be completely ignorable before we know it, which is equally wild.

Re: Seedance 1.0

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Post by throwaway290 »

Intralexical wrote: post #26
thebestmoshe wrote: post #5

The future is something like the TikTok algorithm, but generated on the fly. As you scroll, it learns what you like and generates more videos.

I think this is an unfortunate misunderstanding of why people like and use social media. ChatGPT can already generate endless "comments". And yet you're here.

Most people on social media don't interact, just consume. You are talking to small self selected minority

If there was an HN clone generated on the fly for you or the guy you replied to then what's the difference? Especially if you imagine you didn't know it was generated. That's the problem with this tech, for you there's no difference. But probably a difference for society.

Re: Seedance 1.0

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Post by BizarroLand »

arbll wrote: post #6
thebestmoshe wrote: post #5

The future is something like the TikTok algorithm, but generated on the fly. As you scroll, it learns what you like and generates more videos.

I think it will also try to influence what you like to maximize engagement unfortunately...

There's a cliff though.

It will happen for different people at different times, but at some point the realization that you are looking at people who don't exist living lives that aren't possible to sell you products that won't help you will click for you, and when it does it will cut you off from society in a way we don't currently have words for.

Re: Seedance 1.0

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Post by echelon »

robviren wrote: post #34

I look forward to a day when capabilities like this are trivial and boring to the average person. When my phone (locally) will be able to generate a fully voice acted 24 episode series anime on a whim for a meme with my group chat. It's astounding what we can do now, but will be completely ignorable before we know it, which is equally wild.

More content will be made in a single month than all of human history up to this point.

No more Disney-fication, no more Marvel / Star Wars "mass media slop". We'll have media that caters to people's long-tail interests. If you have a passion for Egyptology and Atlantis, you'll be able to watch a steampunk adventure about the Egyptians waging war with the Atlanteans. But perhaps with the serious tone of "The Wire". That would never have been greenlit before, but it'll soon be possible.

Good creators will arise just like good indie music, indie manga/comic, and indie game creators. Discovery will be the problem to solve for creators. There will be an abundance of talent that is finally able to create their vision rather than nepotism their way into one of 500 limited annual roles of autonomy.

Small creators who grow large like VivziePop [1] and PsychicPebbles [2] will be the model for the future of content. They start small on YouTube, grow large, and eventually have their own large-scale distribution and franchises.

The creative world is about to get orders of magnitude better. Not 2x, not 10x, but easily 1,000x.

I hate most movies and tv shows, but love the medium. The problem is most content produced just isn't my vibe. I like super artsy stuff, but also have particular tastes. That's going to change dramatically. Stuff will start fitting the shape of my interest graph.

I'm so excited.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivienne_Medrano

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zach_Hadel

Re: Seedance 1.0

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Post by ImHereToVote »

aradox66 wrote: post #33
pizzathyme wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With enough context fed into the model of what you react to, the content will be so mesmerizing that you won't be able to look away This is chilling and also seems inevitable long term

I imagine there are some boundary constraints - mobile video can only be so compelling. I would guess we're already pretty close to that threshold.

It would be something like breaking bad but cut intentionally to you specific responses. A drama you can't look away from.

It will be like wirehacking, but in visual form.

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