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Re: YouTuber claims to have received an offer to buy the Commodore brand

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I feel like the real story isn't 'Can We Save Commodore?' but 'What IS Commodore anymore?'. If it's just a trademark disconnected from its original tech, you're not reviving a legend, you're just starting a new company with a famous name.

Famous with old people. The new generation has no idea

wrong. little idea but not no

Re: YouTuber claims to have received an offer to buy the Commodore brand

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On the building a Commodore game room for sick kids charity idea: one thing they wouldn't have is nostalgia for the 1980s home computers. Just get them Nintendos.

I didn’t have a NES growing up; my father didn’t allow “game-only” machines in his house. Instead we had a PET > Vic20 > C64 > PC over the years. Being I write code for a living, it seems his plan paid off for me?

That said, why can’t there be nostalgic 80s/90s consoles AND same-era computers?

Re: YouTuber claims to have received an offer to buy the Commodore brand

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I feel like the real story isn't 'Can We Save Commodore?' but 'What IS Commodore anymore?'. If it's just a trademark disconnected from its original tech, you're not reviving a legend, you're just starting a new company with a famous name.

Commodore as a company died long ago, as can be seen in Deathbed Vigil (a video recorded by one of the employees on the last day).

For a long time it has been misused and nearly disappeared. It is about 40+ trademarks owned by a holding company. It could have been worse if this was scattered among a lot of different entities. So, this is still kind of a big deal as they can acquire all of them

Re: YouTuber claims to have received an offer to buy the Commodore brand

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trademarks can become genericized, which is a bit like them falling into the public domain. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_trademark ) However I don't know if the owner of a trademark can legally make it generic.

> Trademarks can become genericized That’s not the same thing. Trademarks become generalised terms in the public’s mind , not legally. Two people in conversation might refer to a non-Xerox photocopier as a Xerox, but a non-Xerox photocopier company can’t just advertise their products as being Xerox. Additionally, from the wikipedia page you linked (emphasis mine): > A trademark thus popularized is at risk of being ch…

https://www.justia.com/intellectual-property/trademarks/stre...

When a trademark becomes "genericized," the trademark is lost and any other company can use it for their own products. The word "escalator" used to be a trademark and now anyone can sell escalators and market them as such.

Re: YouTuber claims to have received an offer to buy the Commodore brand

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On the building a Commodore game room for sick kids charity idea: one thing they wouldn't have is nostalgia for the 1980s home computers. Just get them Nintendos.

I didn’t have a NES growing up; my father didn’t allow “game-only” machines in his house. Instead we had a PET > Vic20 > C64 > PC over the years. Being I write code for a living, it seems his plan paid off for me? That said, why can’t there be nostalgic 80s/90s consoles AND same-era computers?

>NES

No, I meant, if you want to provide video games, just provide whatever is current and popular. Also, they should research whether there is actually a need for this. One suspects that such a thing already exists.

Re: YouTuber claims to have received an offer to buy the Commodore brand

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I feel like the real story isn't 'Can We Save Commodore?' but 'What IS Commodore anymore?'. If it's just a trademark disconnected from its original tech, you're not reviving a legend, you're just starting a new company with a famous name.

Famous with old people. The new generation has no idea

You'd think thats the case but all these retro Youtubers seems to have inspired a new generation to take up the mantle. I attend the Vintage Computing Festival(the one in NJ) each year and post pandemic it has been filled to the brim with young GenZ era people interested in experiencing the computers of yesteryear. Is it enough to make this venture worth it? We shall see. All the Retro Computing Youtubers including this one must have some demographic data to help fill inn the picture.
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