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After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by baby_souffle »

lucianbr wrote: post #24
diggan wrote: post #19

> "and having offshore porn sites or any other third parties collect IDs from adults and becoming a repository of potential blackmail material comes with its own risks [...] A more technically sound approach would be content controls directly implemented on the devices parents chose to give their children" said the company's (Proton's) spokesperson While I agree with their second point, the first argument sounds a bi…

> “double-anonymity” or "double-blind" protocol: the site never sees the user’s identity, the verifier never learns which site is being visited, and only a yes/no “18+” token is exchanged. Isn't this an actually reasonable solution? I assumed age verification was supposed to be done by the site itself, and therefore it was considered a very bad idea. But this... what's the problem with this method?

> But this... what's the problem with this method?

You're just hoping that there's never a leak of any UUID(s) that could be used to correlate things. The ad-tech industry has pioneered de-anonymization tech and they're very, very good at it.

Tangential question: if the principal is divorced from the "is not a minor" signal, what prevents a thrifty youth from just buying/stealing somebody's token?

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by david-gpu »

azrrik wrote: post #27
david-gpu wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does anybody care that their porn viewing habits become public? To me it sounds as ridiculous as somebody threatening to publish a log of the food we eat or the music we listen to.

people have things they don't want everyone to know. how is wanting a small amount of privacy ridiculous?

Why would anybody even want to know the porn you watch? And what would they do about it, or how would that affect you?

"Hey, Jimmy, I went searching for your porn habits and found that you are into fat redheads. Shame on you, shame on you. You are now excommunicated from... Somewhere". How is this not a much bigger social faux pas for the accuser rather than the accused?

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by david-gpu »

coolio1232 wrote: post #28
david-gpu wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does anybody care that their porn viewing habits become public? To me it sounds as ridiculous as somebody threatening to publish a log of the food we eat or the music we listen to.

Why have privacy if you have nothing to hide? On another note, a lot of places, including those in the west will ostracize you for listening to the wrong music or eating the wrong foods.

Why would you care about remaining in good terms with somebody who would ostracize you for listening to the wrong music or eating the wrong food? Is that a person that deserves your friendship?

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by pkkkzip »

I always wonder what it takes to start a VPN? It's super saturated yet there's clear winners. Also I wonder how the operator is able to side step liability for obvious illegal use cases.

The internet has become a very hostile place and its not just surveillance but peer to peer political persecution where someone doesn't follow the script or believe the same thing they do and they lash out and try to censor them by mass reporting or DDOS

I miss the old internet where we used to escape to avoid reality, now we go offline to avoid the internet.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by landl0rd »

outside1234 wrote: post #8
throe83949449 wrote: post #7

Lovely, people would go to prison, just to see some porn! > engaging in illegal activities while using a VPN remains prohibited under French law. https://medium.com/@green21/is-vpn-legal-in-france-exploring... France has very stupid and strict laws, that apply accross borders! For example paternity test gets you two years, even when physically done in another country!

Wait what? You can't do a Paternity test in France?

Correct. I believe it has to be court-ordered and even then it's rare. DNA testing is also generally illegal unless for medical reasons. They claim this is to "uphold family peace" because "fatherhood is social, not biological". It seems incredibly wrong to me in that they are removing the father's right to choose whether to enter that social role when it is not biologically mandated.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by baby_souffle »

coolio1232 wrote: post #28
david-gpu wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does anybody care that their porn viewing habits become public? To me it sounds as ridiculous as somebody threatening to publish a log of the food we eat or the music we listen to.

Why have privacy if you have nothing to hide? On another note, a lot of places, including those in the west will ostracize you for listening to the wrong music or eating the wrong foods.

> On another note, a lot of places, including those in the west will ostracize you for listening to the wrong music or eating the wrong foods.

Some groups will, yes. In a lot of cases it's just simple hypocrisy; lots of "anti-gay" congressmen somehow keep getting caught soliciting sex in airport bathrooms or on grinder.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by loeg »

jimbob45 wrote: post #5

It’s smart to be using a VPN for any sort of adult internet use these days anyway. Vixen Media Group is extorting people by threatening to leak their identity if they don’t pay up[0]. And not by a 3rd-party collections company either - it’s their own parent company making the demands. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vixen_Media_Group#Legal_action https://www.reddit.com/r/VPNTorrents/comments/1d3wfiz/my_exp...

> Vixen Media Group is extorting people by threatening to leak their identity if they don’t pay up[0].

This is specifically people who pirate their IP over public bittorrent; not paying customers.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by coolio1232 »

david-gpu wrote: post #32
azrrik wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

people have things they don't want everyone to know. how is wanting a small amount of privacy ridiculous?

Why would anybody even want to know the porn you watch? And what would they do about it, or how would that affect you? "Hey, Jimmy, I went searching for your porn habits and found that you are into fat redheads. Shame on you, shame on you. You are now excommunicated from... Somewhere" . How is this not a much bigger social faux pas for the accuser rather than the accused?

Do you expect people to hold up the so-called faux pas or Jimmy's absolutely hilarious fat redhead fetish that his coworkers will be giving him the stink-eye for a few months before everyone forgets about it?

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by mdp2021 »

coolio1232 wrote: post #28
david-gpu wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does anybody care that their porn viewing habits become public? To me it sounds as ridiculous as somebody threatening to publish a log of the food we eat or the music we listen to.

Why have privacy if you have nothing to hide? On another note, a lot of places, including those in the west will ostracize you for listening to the wrong music or eating the wrong foods.

> if you have nothing to hide

We have everything to hide to you.

The mandate is ancient.

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