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Re: Show HN: AI game animation sprite generator

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If your work is of so low quality that an algorithm that only generates "shitty art" (by popular consensus) puts you out of work, then you don't deserve to get paid for your "art." It's Schrödinger's art: it's really bad and good at the same time, good enough to put artists out of work. People don't get paid for work that machines can do. It's not a novel concept.

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Of course they're going to lose their job. ChatGPT is already replacing a bunch of requests that would otherwise be at a walk-in clinic. AI is being shown to be a better diagnostician in many cases than physicians. AI is rapidly reducing the need for radiologists. You think in 20 years you have more doctors than today? Please.

My wife is a pediatric ER doctor. There has been no decrease in visits since ChatGPT came out. If anything there have been more because ChatGPT over recommends ER visits. Expert systems have been able to diagnose many illnesses better than doctors for decades but they have replaced precisely zero doctors for many reasons, but the biggest is that they can’t accept liability for their recommendations. No company will e…

ChatGPT came out 2 years ago. The fact you think you're going to see rapid changes this quickly is ridiculous.

Your wife's anecdotal info is a meaningless datapoint.

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I always find it funny that people are up in arms about artists supposedly losing their jobs, but have no problems with doctors losing their jobs to AI advancements. Replace the people who actually contribute to society and no issues, but god forbid the pixel artist can't get paid to doodle anymore.

I think it's fair to feel bad for how AI is going to eat all of our lunches (either now or 5min from now). But at the end of the day, you either accept it or pitch an alternative. What's the alternative? Freeze tech advancement at 2020's tech in your country? At what expense, and for what gain?

The guillotine will be the alternative if we don't figure out how society is going to function and distribute resources when there is minimal demand for human labor.

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My wife is a pediatric ER doctor. There has been no decrease in visits since ChatGPT came out. If anything there have been more because ChatGPT over recommends ER visits. Expert systems have been able to diagnose many illnesses better than doctors for decades but they have replaced precisely zero doctors for many reasons, but the biggest is that they can’t accept liability for their recommendations. No company will e…

ChatGPT came out 2 years ago. The fact you think you're going to see rapid changes this quickly is ridiculous. Your wife's anecdotal info is a meaningless datapoint.

> ChatGPT is already replacing a bunch of requests that would otherwise be at a walk-in clinic.

That was just to counter this statement.

It’s also not her anecdote, it’s based on data across her entire enormous group. None of the ERs they staff have seen drops.

Re: Show HN: AI game animation sprite generator

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If your work is of so low quality that an algorithm that only generates "shitty art" (by popular consensus) puts you out of work, then you don't deserve to get paid for your "art." It's Schrödinger's art: it's really bad and good at the same time, good enough to put artists out of work. People don't get paid for work that machines can do. It's not a novel concept.

I'm not sure where you consensus is coming from but AI art is getting really, really good. I used to be able to easily tell what was AI art when others couldn't but that's changing fast. It's been trained on some of the best artwork. Various artists have been told their artwork looks like AI, meanwhile it's actually the other around. Already in the app stores there are many games full of AI art that the average perso…

A lot of people are saying that a) AI generates slop that no one needs, and b) AI is putting human artists out of work.

If the machine can do art that's indistinguishable from human art, and art is the soul of humanity, then the machine may have a soul? I've told the machine to create art, I've showed the art to humans, and the humans were touched by it. It evoked an emotion, like art is supposed to.

My personal anecdote: I've used a diffusion model to generate a short video based on a 50 year old photograph, the only photo my dear friend has of his late father that he never got to know. The 10-second video showed the man lifelike, happy and smiling, generated from a photo on which he looked morose. My friend was brought to tears when I showed it to him.

Re: Show HN: AI game animation sprite generator

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If your work is of so low quality that an algorithm that only generates "shitty art" (by popular consensus) puts you out of work, then you don't deserve to get paid for your "art." It's Schrödinger's art: it's really bad and good at the same time, good enough to put artists out of work. People don't get paid for work that machines can do. It's not a novel concept.

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Re: Show HN: AI game animation sprite generator

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> This isn't putting anyone out of work. The games simply would not be made in the first place.

The opposite is also true. Games that should never be made are being made due to the rubbish that can be generated by these tools. Observe the generated samples on the landing page, they are literally just copying street fighter. These tools are so useless without ripping off the hard work of humans. The deluge of slop is a signal to noise problem.

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