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Anthropic co-founder on cutting access to Windsurf

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Re: Anthropic co-founder on cutting access to Windsurf

#31

These are two different products. It's like SpaceX launching satellites for competitive satellite internet services. They didn't care that they were providing launch capabilities for a competitor and neither should Anthropic. What if Apple stopped allowing you to use an iPhone if you worked at Google?

Do you understand that data can be used for training?

Re: Anthropic co-founder on cutting access to Windsurf

#33

This seems pretty reasonable to me. I don't really understand why Windsurf, owned by OpenAI (allegedly), should expect to have API access to their main competitor's API. People can still bring their own key and use whatever models they want in that way.

This seems odd to me, I don't expect bakery to reject selling me a bread this morning, because I started working in another bakery nearby.

This is more like about cutting you off reselling their bread, which would be reasonable.

Re: Anthropic co-founder on cutting access to Windsurf

#37
This feels like a cheap trick to drive users towards Claude Code. It's likely no coincidence that this happened at the same time they announced subscription access to Claude Code.

The Windsurf team repeatedly stated that they're running at a loss so all this seems to have achieved is giving OpenAI an excuse to cut their 3rd party costs and drive more Windsurf users towards their own models.

Re: Anthropic co-founder on cutting access to Windsurf

#38
post #20

Probably most here are not old enough to remember, but there was a time when Google had all sorts of data access APIs and encouraged developers to create applications that used said APIs. And then they disabled them all.

How is that relevant?

api openness is temporary - dont build a business on it

Re: Anthropic co-founder on cutting access to Windsurf

#39

This should be a clear signal to the community that anthropic can’t be trusted. OpenAI can’t either, TBD on google

TBD on whether Google can be trusted? That ship sailed long ago.

To steal markets? Honestly I can’t think of one but someone can correct me

I certainly don’t trust them to not kill whole products on demand

Re: Anthropic co-founder on cutting access to Windsurf

#40

This feels like a cheap trick to drive users towards Claude Code. It's likely no coincidence that this happened at the same time they announced subscription access to Claude Code. The Windsurf team repeatedly stated that they're running at a loss so all this seems to have achieved is giving OpenAI an excuse to cut their 3rd party costs and drive more Windsurf users towards their own models.

Nobody is actually using Windsurf. It was an acquihire and a squashing of competition that caught ground in the enterprise contract market really early. Anyone doing agentic coding seriously is using open source tooling with direct token pricing to the major model providers. Windsurf/Cursor/et. al are just expensive middlemen with no added value.
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