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Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

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Re: Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

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Post by runako »

antisthenes wrote: post #12

It's pretty sad that loonies like this get a platform at all. The ultimate irony is that New Yorker in this case is writing an article about him, mocking his views...yet legitimizing them at the same time by associating their name with this kind of person at all. How is this guy different from any other of the thousands moderately-successful tech people with an obscure hobby project (Urbit). Just because of his far-o…

> How is this guy different

Extremely high-profile & powerful people listen to his ideas & are influenced by his beliefs.

Re: Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

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Post by sitkack »

A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #18

I mentioned this previously, but I frequently think back to Gibson's "Jackpot" -- a cross-lashed, polycausal catastrophe: Lots of bad little things accumulating, building up a certain momentum. I think that even as far back as 2009, an astute observer would have noticed that society is beginning to burn through its seed corn. In some places, things are now getting extremely acute: https://www.neilobrien.co.uk/p/the-c…

> He's foppish and playful more than he is scary.

This is a very unwise stance to take. Peter Thiel has teamed up with the Heritage Foundation to implement this plan. This is why A16Z and Musk put Trump in power, it is precisely to implement this plan.

Re: Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

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Post by sorcerer-mar »

clueless wrote: post #21
senkora wrote: post #5

Scott Alexander also recently had a take on Curtis Yarvin’s recent actions: https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/moldbug-sold-out The gist of it is that he had interesting ideas on political systems in the past, but that his current ideas are nonsense, and in fact his old work explains exactly why his new work is nonsense.

Precisely, I'm not sure why Curtis is kept being discussed when if you listened to him now, it's all nonsense.

Because he says rich people should rule the world, ergo rich people like him and attempt to encode his very stupid ideas into our politics, ergo we all have to care what he says

It’s really a testament to how astonishingly stupid some of those rich folks are that they find any of Yarvin’s work compelling.

Re: Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

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Post by 7373737373 »

roughly wrote: post #15
Hikikomori wrote: post #7

The society of Snow Crash is a dystopia, not something we should want to implement.

The biggest mistake the Cyberpunk authors made was making their dystopia look so cool and then assuming we’d actually read the book.

The world needs more https://aesthetics.fandom.com/wiki/Cyberprep

Re: Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

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Post by gr__or »

wyager wrote: post #20
senkora wrote: post #5

Scott Alexander also recently had a take on Curtis Yarvin’s recent actions: https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/moldbug-sold-out The gist of it is that he had interesting ideas on political systems in the past, but that his current ideas are nonsense, and in fact his old work explains exactly why his new work is nonsense.

Ironically, the quality of Scott's work has taken a markedly sharper nosedive in the last decade than the quality of Yarvin's work.

I don't quite see it that way. Imo he's been to involved in anti-woke culture waring, but I still found him to be wonderfully interesting to read.

Re: Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

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Post by suddenlybananas »

thrance wrote: post #28

His tenets would be at home in the mind of a 16th century european king, and yet they now make up the core of American politics. There is no way America shakes this insanity off easily, it will require a long time and (lots of) suffering.

A 16th century king would probably be a bit more erudite at least
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