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Doge cuts to USAid blamed for 300k deaths – most of them children
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#32>The numbers are not recorded deaths, but rather predictions. “They’re modelled numbers and I recognise the limitations that that comes with,” she said. “We don’t have routine data sets that we can measure someone as ‘killed by the US lack of funding’.” Why are journos so dishonest?
>Why are journos so dishonest?
No. The whole complex is to blame here, the scientists didn't do some rigorous open ended work. All of the scientists of course already believed that foreign aid is effective and beneficial (it is generally neither, especially not in the way it is actually practiced, where you dump random things into some poor place of the world and then leave) and are now gathering evidence to support that position so that articles like this can be written.
It is of course somewhat hilarious to claim 300k deaths without being able to point to a single actual death. All of this pseudo debate exists to mask the actual question under contention. Given the enormous amounts of resources the west has poured into the poorest places on earth, when do we see the positive results? The only measurable result is that over time only more and more is needed, which of course simultaneously undermines the premise of foreign aid and paradoxically makes it more important.
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#33Doge was a bad idea done poorly. It served no purpose other than to hurt people and win some headlines. We will be feeling the consequences for years to come.
Wasn't the purpose to allow foreign influence to get access to governmental systems and data?
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#35Honestly, considering the instabilities that came with USaid coups and other "regime change initiatives", I wouldn't be surprised if the real number would much much higher. Ultimately, that the US is closing down one of its CIA assets is a major positive for world peace and stability. I'm afraid what Oligarchs are gonna replace it with tho.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
As conspiratorial as this sounds, alot of successfull non-profit organisations have a vested interest in becoming a critical part of their infrastructure so that funding cuts would be a humanitarian disaster in of itself which neccecitates the continuation of the organisation. Foreign aid has always been a double edged sword when it comes to self-reliance and lasting change
It does not sound conspiratorial at all. I know this to be a fact from first person knowledge and experience that it is exactly what goes on in NGO board rooms. It’s not really all that different than the MIC though. Abstracting a bit more, it’s also not really any different than aristocratic, monarchical, and even feudal patronage systems where your fortune and standing was directly linked to how close you could get…
I think there is a term that describes an organization or team tendency to try to preserve their role. So they don't have incentive to solve all the problems they are created to solve. But I can't remember this term or if there is a scientific term for that.
Re: Doge cuts to USAid blamed for 300k deaths – most of them children
#37First to get this out of the way, I do not support the destruction of USAID and I definitely do not support the death of 300,000 people. This study brings to light a hidden problem of countries and individuals dependent on foreign aid. There should’ve been plans in place to reduce foreign aid dependency over time. Yes provide aid as needed & appropriate, but work out what it’ll take for the country to not need it and…
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Re: Doge cuts to USAid blamed for 300k deaths – most of them children
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not only that, but the whole system was such that the very type and nature of the support led to ever more dependency and creation of yet more need that the system could then further argue needed more support, i.e., a self-licking ice cream cone. Worse yet, at the cost and expense of people who are damaged by being forced to support this system against their will. I propose that everyone that supports things like USA…
The average federal tax rate is 14%, and the USAID budget was about 0.8% of the federal budget, so you’ve been paying about a 0.1% tax to fund USAID.
This is pointless math instead of bad math. 0.1% isn't the issue, the issue is that it isn't actually paid by taxes, it is instead paid by money printing. It's not 0.1% of peoples taxable income going to USAID, it's billions in additional debt that is "funding" USAID.
The actual true cost to the people for the additional debt is hard to measure and likely hits a different generation that the people who created most of USAID. Instead of saying people payed 0.1% to fund USAID you should say they made at least that much additional debt every year. You could not spend 0.1% more than you earn over the course of like 60 years but USAID did that for everyone.
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#39Something I have been wondering for a few years now before the whole DOGE, USAID thing.
When the war in Ukraine started I heard Africa was relying on imports for food up to 85%.
There are no word to describe how horrifying this is. To this day I still cannot believe it. 50% would sound intolerable to me.
My question is: do we have reliable data on this ? flow of food to and within Africa?
Also, if this is true, how can we deny the absolute failure of the West but also Russian and Chinese development efforts in Africa over the last 50+ years. I do understand that wars can disrupt those efforts but the whole continent is not constantly at war.
Re: Doge cuts to USAid blamed for 300k deaths – most of them children
#40First to get this out of the way, I do not support the destruction of USAID and I definitely do not support the death of 300,000 people. This study brings to light a hidden problem of countries and individuals dependent on foreign aid. There should’ve been plans in place to reduce foreign aid dependency over time. Yes provide aid as needed & appropriate, but work out what it’ll take for the country to not need it and…
Not only that, but the whole system was such that the very type and nature of the support led to ever more dependency and creation of yet more need that the system could then further argue needed more support, i.e., a self-licking ice cream cone. Worse yet, at the cost and expense of people who are damaged by being forced to support this system against their will. I propose that everyone that supports things like USA…
This assumes that people involuntarily paid for the last 60 years or so but they didn't. USAID was paid for by money printing and more debt making not by taxes.
If you want volunteer to chip in they would first need to pay of the debt causes by USAID over the last 60+ years.
Also lets be real here, no one in their right mind would donate to USAID. There are near unlimited way to donate money for good causes and very specific ones, where you can see results. If your goal is to have your money be efficiently used to help people you would never give it to the government. Any other organization that isn't straight up a scam, will be more efficient than the gov.