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Why is it so hard to get families to live in community houses?

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Re: Why is it so hard to get families to live in community houses?

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There’s also the problem of communities that are not nice to anyone they don’t approve of.

Maybe I just have too many LGBT friends to be objective. But I’ve had to leave communities because I had to keep my head down and my mouth shut to stay in them.

LGBT communities aren’t perfect either.

Communities are messy and we have a lot of choice in who we pick to be in them. In the past, you didn’t have a lot of options and you were strongly incentivized to make compromises.

Re: Why is it so hard to get families to live in community houses?

#35

People generally only live in community houses if they're poor and have no other options. "But people in Indi.." No. Wealthy Indians have fucking single-family Get Me The Fuck Away From Everyone Else compounds surrounded by high walls, gate houses, and surveillance equipment. Unless you're a lifelong career civil servant in the foreign service nearing retirement who went abroad working in consulates and embassies imm…

You must have some stories to tell! Would love to hear more :-)

Re: Why is it so hard to get families to live in community houses?

#37
Many of the problems this article talks about are relatively new, historically, and I can't help but wonder if the problem isn't really other trends like high-intensity helicopter parenting, rather than "atomic" families.

I grew up in a fairly typical American suburb, in the 70s, and lived in a single-family, single-generation household. But, there were 35+ kids on my one-block street! The neighborhood consisted entirely of families with children and retirees, and among the families, the median number of kids was three. There were a couple of families with two, but multiple with four; there were also families with 5, 6, and 7. We were constantly in and out of each other's houses. I regularly would walk out my door, through my neighbor's front yard, and into my best friend's house without knocking. A lot of the time we were outside, and unsupervised by adults. Overall I think the burden on parents (per kid) was much lower than today.

I think the large number of kids made this kind of arrangement both necessary and possible. Nobody could have the energy to supervise so many kids the way kids are supervised today, but also we all looked out for each other. There were lots of siblings. Older sibs were responsible for younger, and by extension, their younger friends as well. If someone got hurt, some friends would help while others would run to get a parent, and not necessarily the parent of the kid who got hurt.

Even this situation, I can't imagine wanting to actually share a household with any of my friends' families. In fact, when I slept over, I was always struck with how weird other families' closed-door customs seemed. It's the same now: when we get an occasional glimpse into the behind-closed-doors dynamics of our friends' marriages and families, my wife and I are always like, hm... weird. I think it's like that for everyone.

Getting married and having a family is a very personal thing. I love my friends, but I wouldn't want to marry any of them.

Re: Why is it so hard to get families to live in community houses?

#38
What on earth? That's an eye-catching headline. That's like asking, "Why is it so hard to get people to give up on the American Dream?" Sure, there's a big conversation to have on the topic, but "why" sure as hell isn't an unsolved mystery.

Re: Why is it so hard to get families to live in community houses?

#39
Different cultures. Your culture determines who sets expectations and who enforces them in these situations, and Indians can work with their culture's existing system for organizing and managing community homes. Americans would have to figure out a system, agree on it, troubleshoot it, while trying to learn how to be parents. That's almost impossible.

Re: Why is it so hard to get families to live in community houses?

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Funny... All of my kid's friends are pretty wholesome, respectful, nice people. Always happy to have them visit to play. But many of their parents (30-40 years old) are pretty bad. Not nasty, but just... anti-social and aloof, totally absorbed in themselves and their phones. I couldn't imagine raising our kids together in some sort of shared commune.

I think/hope my feelings will change as my kids are a bit older. Right now they're both under 5 and other kids just seem like terrorists. I actually worry though that I'm teaching my kids to be too timid and should encourage them to stand up to the terrorists more.

You should. It doesn't get better.
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