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The Who Cares Era

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Re: The Who Cares Era

#31
I think this is what is meant by 'slop', especially Dan's mention of Hanif Abdurraqib's subject matter on content meant to be consumed while doing something else. Its purpose is consumption for consumption's sake.

That's not necessarily a negative, a lot of entertainment has been predicated on non-thought (Seinfeld was great in part because of no hugs, no learning) consumption. However, when it leaks into how we access and shape the world, there is an increase in 'slop'pily made, low quality structures and products. I feel like its ushering in an era of 'Chabuduo' [1] across the globe that's going to be very difficult to come out of.

[1] https://www.chinaexpatsociety.com/culture/the-chabuduo-minds...

Re: The Who Cares Era

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post #5

I was just kvetching about this to my partner over breakfast. Not exactly, but a parallel observation, that a lot of people are just kind of shit at their jobs. The utility tech who turned my tiny gas leak into a larger gas leak and left. The buildings around me that take the better part of a decade to build (really? A parking garage takes six years?) Cops who have decided it's their job to do as little as possible.…

> The buildings around me that take the better part of a decade to build (really? A parking garage takes six years?) This doesn't happen because nobody cares. It happens because the financing dries up, or labor is straight up not available. And that still comes back to money.

Yes, and...

I had my renovation stall for 6 weeks because someone at Mass DEP couldn't be arsed to approve an asbestos abatement work plan. My contractor called the guy's boss and it was approved the next day.

Re: The Who Cares Era

#33
post #2

> the reader didn't care I would argue -in cases like this- the reader doesn't exist, closer to a dead internet society

Very few read the inquirer anyways, which reflects the author's idea of a trend away from sitting down and just consuming normal media.

Re: The Who Cares Era

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I was just kvetching about this to my partner over breakfast. Not exactly, but a parallel observation, that a lot of people are just kind of shit at their jobs. The utility tech who turned my tiny gas leak into a larger gas leak and left. The buildings around me that take the better part of a decade to build (really? A parking garage takes six years?) Cops who have decided it's their job to do as little as possible.…

Honestly, I hate to say it because it’s become an annoying topic—but the problem is social media. Full stop.

People are so distracted, scrolling ad-nauseam, that the only hope and dream they have is: to become an “influencer.”

They’ll sell a view of their children and family life to the highest bidding sponsor. Then, peddling products to a fresh batch of spectators who think, “Ah! Wouldn’t that be the life? I should do that too—then I will be famous and making a hell-of-a lot more money than I am now!”

I mean the amount of scam ads on YouTube alone selling a lifestyle of abundance and riches—living like a rockstar—only perpetuates the wrong values.

People should be PROUD of hard work. And they will be, when they become less distracted and start to see the joys of value creation again.

Note: I just want to clarify that my intent is not to say that social media is inherently evil—there’s lots of value-creation happening there—just that THIS particular issue is because social media has misdirected people’s ambitions.

https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/what-is-gen-zs-no...

https://www.sostandard.com/blogs/social-media-is-changing-ge...

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/08/study-young-people-want-to-b...

Re: The Who Cares Era

#35
I think people right now are way too willing to surrender their own judgment. AI is an example of this, but there are many others: restaurant ratings, movie metascores, political polls, college rankings, engagement metrics, etc. These kinds of data should be a part of decision making, but not all of it. Otherwise, you get this passive, "who cares" mentality that the author describes.

Re: The Who Cares Era

#36
When I do things for myself, I cut every corner until everything is spherical. But when I do things for others, I get joy from doing good work. Half-arsing something makes me feel ashamed. Not everything I do is done well, motivation waxes and wanes, sometimes I'm ill or tired or stressed. But then I try to do things as well as possible given the circumstances. I would hope that most people try to do the same.

Re: The Who Cares Era

#37
post #5

I was just kvetching about this to my partner over breakfast. Not exactly, but a parallel observation, that a lot of people are just kind of shit at their jobs. The utility tech who turned my tiny gas leak into a larger gas leak and left. The buildings around me that take the better part of a decade to build (really? A parking garage takes six years?) Cops who have decided it's their job to do as little as possible.…

> There's a culture of indifference, an embrace of mediocrity.

Even worse, it's become a sort of cultural expectation. Among my friend group here in the UK, people think you're weird for even trying and classify you as a tryhard for simply doing well. It's very different to Asia and I'm not surprised the UK is falling behind.

Re: The Who Cares Era

#38
post #6

>Until I read an application written entirely by a person. And then another. And another. They glowed with delight and joy and sadness and with the unexpected at every turn. These are the people who had their applications rejected elsewhere since the AI didn't like them. I use ChatGPT to create my resume since it gives me at least a chance I'll get a response. Manually written resumes get ignored.

genuine question: can anyone expand on this? This is the first I've heard of this and I'd love to know more. What is it about AI generated resumes that get paste AI resume filters that manually-written resumes don't have?

Sounds like people coping about their lack of responses. “It’s not me, it must be AI’s fault!”

Re: The Who Cares Era

#39

Sadly, this seems to be the case, but I'm not so sure that it's new. I think "If it's worth doing; it's worth doing half-assed." is a personal working philosophy that is probably thousands of years old. It's just that now, we have better tools for half-assing it.

I think there’s something historically unusual going on in the US currently. We got an incredible lead when the rest of the world blew it self up right in the middle of industrialization. Things worked out by default, allowing other parts of the system to half-ass it. Now we have a tradition of half-assing it which seems likely to come back and bite us in the ass as the feedback loop slows down.

Our whole corporate culture is based on the idea that business doesn’t have to plan more than a quarter ahead, because engineering will pull a magic trick instead.

Re: The Who Cares Era

#40
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe (and I mean this genuinely, I don't know for certain) "Who cares?" is a cause of wage stagnation.

UK real wages stagnated directly in line with the 2008 financial crisis [1]. Enough has been written about 'too big to fail' that I don't need to rehash it, but ascribing guilt to the workers of a chronically underpaid and historically innovative nation doesn't feel right. [1] Office of National Statistics via BBC: https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/2560/cpsprodpb/13FD8/p...

Wage stagnation always happens at the start of any economic downturn. However, once over and the economy resumes, typically the stagnation ends, and wages jump.

The massive, huge cynic in me says, people make less because all they do is stare at their phones. Yes, I know, I'm overstating things a bit.

But the other day I noticed the approx 20 year old garbage collector, was staring at his phone the whole time. I am not joking. Truck pulls up, he glances at my garbage bin, back to phone as he snags it. While rolling it to the truck? Staring at phone. While pulling the lever to lift and dump it? Phone. While putting it back in my driveway? Phone.

While hanging off the truck from one arm as it careens up to 100km/hr to the next rural property? Phone.

He's literally not doing his job. He's supposed to be looking for things in the garbage (car batteries, or something else not for normal garbage) during the dump. My bin also fell into the ditch, because he didn't even look at where it was headed.

(And I've had garbage collectors for my entire life, decades of them, and yes it's worse.)

Another example? I had a fridge delivered. One guy was 40. The other 20.

40 year old talks to me, etc as the delivery proceeds. 20 year old? Staring at phone literally every second, monosyllabic answers. Had to be prompted by 40 year old a dozen times to do basic jobs.

I'm not saying it's all phones. But I've heard the cries of horror from people who have been told "if your phone is in your hand at work, you're fired".

I can just imagine, when one is literally that addicted to something, how normal "I don't like work" unpleasantness skyrockets to mega-proportions of inane misery, from the conjoined "ARG, WORK!" and "OMG my fix is missing!"

I envision it as "OK, now I'm working this sucks" mixed with "plus I have shards of glass in my shoes" or some such.

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