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They used Xenon to climb Everest in days – is it the future of mountaineering?

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Re: They used Xenon to climb Everest in days – is it the future of mountaineering?

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post #25

Xenon is used by athletes to increase their endogenous erythropoietin production. As it's a noble gas, it leaves no trace in their body, so post-hoc detection of this doping method is impossible. But as a recreational climber, why bother with xenon? Just inject EPO.

Breathing in an inert gas is easier and much safer than injecting something into your body.

Epo injections are safe and effective, and side effects are very rare and usually mild

Re: They used Xenon to climb Everest in days – is it the future of mountaineering?

#36

"former special force", "flew to expert across Europe for testing and trial" Yeah this is not your average mountain climber group, "normal" people could not do this just by xenon gas alone

Yeah was about to say that must have been really good baseline fitness.

I know people that made it to Kilimanjaro as pretty average middle class urbanites with no substantial climbing background, but that's probably at the edge of what's possible.

Re: They used Xenon to climb Everest in days – is it the future of mountaineering?

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"just to climb a overcrowded rock and tick a checkbox on your pathetic life's" why the HATE so much lol

Because others are exploited and risk their lives to get these people up that peak. If it was only them going up on their own without expectations to be rescued if something goes wrong no one would have a problem with it.

Are they really being exploited? Or is it just something they do for money of their own volition?

Re: They used Xenon to climb Everest in days – is it the future of mountaineering?

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I find it quite amusing. A couple of years back a good friend of mine went to Everest basecamp. That wasn't even the summit. So they have WiFi up there now and I get a message from her. The message was "made it" with a selfie attached where she actually looked like she hated her entire existence and wondered what the hell she was doing with her life. It was visibly rammed and apparently it smelled of human shit.

Expensive way to have a bad time.

Re: They used Xenon to climb Everest in days – is it the future of mountaineering?

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"just to climb a overcrowded rock and tick a checkbox on your pathetic life's" why the HATE so much lol

Because others are exploited and risk their lives to get these people up that peak. If it was only them going up on their own without expectations to be rescued if something goes wrong no one would have a problem with it.

Have you asked the Sherpas how they feel before you started calling them "exploited" and advocating for the destruction of their lifestyle?

Re: They used Xenon to climb Everest in days – is it the future of mountaineering?

#40
post #34

What even is the point anymore of doing something like this if you cheat your whole way up. It’s like bragging about sailing around the world when in reality you did a cruise

Where do you draw the line at cheating, though? Is using supplemental oxygen cheating?
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