It's a taste of his own medicine. Having your entire service blocked due to a portion of it being illegal is not much different to how he personally terminated service for 8chan due to a portion of it he claimed was illegal.
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#32He's been complaining a lot about Portugal on Twitter too. https://x.com/eastdakota
It's really weird to vent on socials like this without specific asks. Makes him look whiny (ie https://x.com/eastdakota/status/1926750112757273065 )
Your/Our masters need newer, bigger and better handouts!
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#34I live in Spain, while I find the whole "life-threatening" narrative a tad overblown: I agree these obnoxious blocks are unacceptable. Incredible how much power LaLiga is capable of wielding.
Also Serie A, in Italy we had people losing everything this winter due to floods, and clubs were still trying to not postpone matches, it's so crap that there are so many people following football
In Brazil it is not uncommon for fans to organize protests, sometimes violent, when a club starts performing poorly due to perceived slack on the players. At the same time, seemingly more pressing political issues often go unnoticed. It's beyond me how some people get more riled up by the sport, not being a sports person myself.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
All systems seem to converge to these monopolies. Google, X, Facebook, Cloudflare. All minor player are absorbed or eliminated.
I think we are partially to blame for this too though. For the last 10-20 years the whole goal of a founder was to grow a business, get acquired then exit. If founders instead focused on building a sustainable business maybe we would have a more diverse tech landscape.
To be fair, even the ones that don't want to get acquired know the bitter road ahead from the opposition aggression.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m gonna argue that piracy is the only thing keeping platforms somewhat in check to not get completely enshittified. I stopped pirating stuff when content platforms gave a compelling easy to use product, I’m back to pirating because it’s genuinely a better product compared to the endless hoops you have to jump through to use streaming services
What hoops? Payment? I pay to stream La Liga and it's about as easy as hitting 'Watch Live'
Shitty non-platform-integrated UI 8: my particular bug bear. I want a native Apple TV app using native controls if I’m to pay money for a streaming service. That said, I just don’t bother watching if that isn’t available.
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#37I live in Spain, while I find the whole "life-threatening" narrative a tad overblown: I agree these obnoxious blocks are unacceptable. Incredible how much power LaLiga is capable of wielding.
In a globalized internet, your health institutions websites may run through, or depend on (i.e. 3rd party sites, js dependencies, etc) going through Cloudflare. Or emergency services, or whatever. With enough players you go from a side possibility to a certainty.
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#38Actually, this is a Cloudflare problem - simply take extra steps to ensure your clients paying for your services aren’t harmed by natural market forces.
If you read between the lines, he’s claiming people will die because Cloudflare doesn’t want to take the time, effort, or money to fix the problem that they easily could by creating a separate system for critical services.
This type of “tech hypochondria” should be absolutely dragged at every opportunity. This guy runs a business and whines that his clients don’t deserve what his business agrees to provide? FOH with that ish mang I ain’t buying it.
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#39I was unaware of this controversy so in brief:
1. La Liga (Spanish Football) finds pirates streaming their games objectionable
2. They notice that many of these streamers use Cloudflare for something, presumably CDN and load balancing.
3. They appear in court in Spain and get an ex-parte TRO blocking all Cloudflare IPs. (Ex parte TRO: restraining order granted without Cloudflare being summoned to court)
4. Based on this, they tell ISPs to block pretty much all of Cloudflare in Spain.
5. Cloudflare goes public in frustration, noting that they could just send take down requests for infringing content like every other rights holder in the world, and that many Spanish utilities and civil resources use Cloudflare.
Interesting. My gut is that it’s hard to beat La Liga on their home turf, as evidenced by not even being invited to the court hearings which shut you down across all of Spain.
Long term, I’d guess CF wins this one? Probably they will have to escalate in some way to Eurozone courts, although I have no idea how this might work. No cloud business could meet the standard put forward by La Liga; but also there are only so many CDN companies. Meantime I guess illegal streamers can move to Google and see which legal group wins that battle.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
All systems seem to converge to these monopolies. Google, X, Facebook, Cloudflare. All minor player are absorbed or eliminated.
X is a minor player. Replace it with AWS
I meant for what it does.
Is there anything even remotely comparable to twitter (outside of the PRC)?