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When you prevent somebody from accessing what is out there, they release their own. The problem with that?? Well, only they mastered it since it was developed with local tech, by the time the goods are sent worldwide, you are blindfolded. Still, I would never buy a Chinese tech device, you are buying a surveillance system to allow its government to spy on you.
> I would never buy a Chinese tech device, you are buying a surveillance system to allow its government to spy on you. There is no public evidence that Chinese consumer tech has ever been used to spy for the Chinese government. None. Meanwhile, the USA has been caught running mass surveillance programmes like PRISM and tapping the phones of its own allies. That is confirmed. And yet it is the USA making the most nois…
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#32Really cool to see the microkernel vision come to reality Who in 1990 would have thought a Chinese telecom company would productionize it before Hurd even released 1.0
Quite easy when you are a state apparatus
This is an interesting comment.
It makes me wonder why the Pentagon, with a US$1 trillion budget and being a critical piece of the US state apparatus, could not create a solution like that in recent years.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I would never buy a Chinese tech device, you are buying a surveillance system to allow its government to spy on you. There is no public evidence that Chinese consumer tech has ever been used to spy for the Chinese government. None. Meanwhile, the USA has been caught running mass surveillance programmes like PRISM and tapping the phones of its own allies. That is confirmed. And yet it is the USA making the most nois…
https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/climate-energy/ghost-...
Wait until you learn how many off-the-shelf consumer devices contain a wifi capable microcontroller like the esp8266 and dont need or declare wifi capabilities...
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#34We should have known that if we limited China from accessing our tech, they'd just grow their own. The game is afoot, and China knew to de-risk and decouple. I don't think that it can be stopped at this point. HarmonyOS, RISC-V, DeepSeek, domestic EUV, etc. China is standing up its own tech pillars. So I suppose American lawmakers see this as a game of slowing down the competition rather than fully impeding it. China…
When you prevent somebody from accessing what is out there, they release their own. The problem with that?? Well, only they mastered it since it was developed with local tech, by the time the goods are sent worldwide, you are blindfolded. Still, I would never buy a Chinese tech device, you are buying a surveillance system to allow its government to spy on you.
> Still, I would never buy a Chinese tech device, you are buying a surveillance system to allow its government to spy on you.
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#35We should have known that if we limited China from accessing our tech, they'd just grow their own. The game is afoot, and China knew to de-risk and decouple. I don't think that it can be stopped at this point. HarmonyOS, RISC-V, DeepSeek, domestic EUV, etc. China is standing up its own tech pillars. So I suppose American lawmakers see this as a game of slowing down the competition rather than fully impeding it. China…
Won't claim to be an expert but there were many high profile stories of china breaking up or otherwise limiting their biggest tech companies. Why would the US not propping theirs up hinder america's lead?
what a lot of people don't get about china is their tech sector is build on intense internal competition; its a specific goal of the industrial policy....
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Quite easy when you are a state apparatus
This is an interesting comment. It makes me wonder why the Pentagon, with a US$1 trillion budget and being a critical piece of the US state apparatus, could not create a solution like that in recent years.
The US government ( most governments in the world ) decided to give money to Microsoft instead.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
When you prevent somebody from accessing what is out there, they release their own. The problem with that?? Well, only they mastered it since it was developed with local tech, by the time the goods are sent worldwide, you are blindfolded. Still, I would never buy a Chinese tech device, you are buying a surveillance system to allow its government to spy on you.
> Still, I would never buy a Chinese tech device, you are buying a surveillance system to allow its government to spy on you. i would tend to agree in general, but more and more this seems less the sole domain of chinese tech the way things are going (though maybe im just paranoid)
> you are buying a surveillance system to allow its government to spy on you
And yet the audit of the Huawei routers fond no backdoors.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Quite easy when you are a state apparatus
This is an interesting comment. It makes me wonder why the Pentagon, with a US$1 trillion budget and being a critical piece of the US state apparatus, could not create a solution like that in recent years.
The DoD already uses a commercial microkernel OS called INTEGRITY for various applications.
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#39Really cool to see the microkernel vision come to reality Who in 1990 would have thought a Chinese telecom company would productionize it before Hurd even released 1.0
Quite easy when you are a state apparatus
Statements like this are just lazy justifications, born out of the desire to reinforce a certain world view, rather than genuine effort to understand.
Much has already been said about why Huawei is not simply a state apparatus, so I won't repeat that. The point I rather want to make is this: having a factually wrong image of the counterparty is dangerous, especially if you view the counterparty as an enemy (justified or not).
If you care about advancing your material interests, then you might want to emulate what you believe makes the counterparty successful (in this case, the belief that they're a state apparatus). But when you find out that the emulation yields bad results because your image of the counterparty was wrong in the first place, you will have wasted a bunch of time and resources. It's in your interest to get your world view right the first time aroubd.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I would never buy a Chinese tech device, you are buying a surveillance system to allow its government to spy on you. There is no public evidence that Chinese consumer tech has ever been used to spy for the Chinese government. None. Meanwhile, the USA has been caught running mass surveillance programmes like PRISM and tapping the phones of its own allies. That is confirmed. And yet it is the USA making the most nois…
https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/climate-energy/ghost-...
The sources are anonymous US government personnel who refuse to give any details, so nothing can be verified. Anybody can make baseless accusations.