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Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by 90s_dev »

> You'll get diabetes. Have a coffee.

When I was a kid, I hated even the smell of coffee so much, that tasting it could make me throw up.

A few years ago, to help kick my soda habit, I forced myself to drink black coffee every single day.

The first day, I could barely stomach a few sips. After a week or so, I could finish the whole cup with great difficulty. After another few weeks, I could finish it without minding. And finally, after maybe a month or a little more, I actually enjoyed the taste.

It seems that if you force yourself to taste any food or drink for 40 days, you'll eventually enjoy it.

I also noticed that I drink way too much coffee and way too quickly if I add cream or sugar. Black coffee is the ideal.

Since I'm too stupid and/or lazy to figure out how to clean my coffee machine (the instructions said something about vinegar once in a while) I realized you could just put a tablespoon of ground coffee into a filter, fold it twice, twist the edges like a tootsie roll, and tie them together, forming essentially a tea bag, then put it in a bot of water about 1-2 cups worth, squish it up with a spoon a bit, let it sit overnight as if you were making ice coffee, and heat it up in the morning long enough to go to the bathroom, and it's the perfect tempature and taste, and you only have to rinse the pot to clean it.

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by arealaccount »

90s_dev wrote: post #31

> You'll get diabetes. Have a coffee. When I was a kid, I hated even the smell of coffee so much, that tasting it could make me throw up. A few years ago, to help kick my soda habit, I forced myself to drink black coffee every single day. The first day, I could barely stomach a few sips. After a week or so, I could finish the whole cup with great difficulty. After another few weeks, I could finish it without minding.…

You should learn about pour overs

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

#34

Post by tomjakubowski »

dgunay wrote: post #15
dieselerator wrote: post #8

> The idea that coffee can have any taste other burnt rubber was interesting. That summarizes the article. This is not a recommendation, but you can buy caffeine pills.

The worldwide obsession with dark roast coffee baffles me. I guess if you're adding sugar then it doesn't matter that the coffee is burnt to a crisp.

Light roasts are pretty popular in Denmark and elsewhere in Scandinavia.

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS »

SoftTalker wrote: post #14
kmm wrote: post #6

I thought coffee for people who don't like coffee was instant coffee? The linked Clever Dripper seems like it's comparatively a bit more effort and waste. Apart from the advantage of instant preparation, to my undiscerning palate instant coffee has got all the qualities and taste of coffee I enjoy, and not being a coffee-connoisseur, I can't be disappointed by its apparent blandness or one-dimensionality.

Yeah instant coffee is fine. Not great, but not any worse than any drip brewed supermarket coffee.

It depends on the instant coffee brand. Some are much worse, primarily due to the acidity content being much higher. The ones that are designed to reduce the amount of acidity are about on par with the normal drip stuff.

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

#36

Post by alabastervlog »

dgunay wrote: post #15
dieselerator wrote: post #8

> The idea that coffee can have any taste other burnt rubber was interesting. That summarizes the article. This is not a recommendation, but you can buy caffeine pills.

The worldwide obsession with dark roast coffee baffles me. I guess if you're adding sugar then it doesn't matter that the coffee is burnt to a crisp.

All I can figure is that with a place like, say, Starbucks, it's a consistency thing. Even their "light" roasts are pretty dark, and their medium is "burnt to a crisp", but if you want to put 25,000,000 12oz bags of coffee on shelves and for it all to be "the same" (all "Pike Place", say) then I guess burning all the character out of whatever beans you got ahold of is one way to do it, versus sourcing all the beans from the same small set of farms in the same country in a single season or whatever.

I figure it's a similar story for most of the other big national or multinational coffee roasters, which is why it's almost impossible to find those correctly-roasted, delicate, tea-like coffees from anything but tiny roasters. Those places, two of their "medium roasts" may taste wildly different and if their supply of the beans for one variety dries up, that one's gone unless they can find a way to get more of it. Dunkin or whoever just want to always be able to have a bag with the same name on it on the shelf, and for it to always taste the same, even if that same-taste is not very good.

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

#37

Post by maxwellg »

During Covid I spent a lot of time on my home coffee setup - I've since dialed it back but I've kept the pourover, the grinder, and the Chemex. We found a local business that roasts beans in their garage that we love.

The biggest problem is that really good coffee ruins bad coffee foreger. After making my own for so long, traveling and dealing with gas station or hotel breakfast coffee is especially jarring. Sometimes I wish I could forget how good coffee could taste.

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS »

hanlonsrazor wrote: post #32

Recommend giving DAK roasters a try, fantastic light coffee.

I would say the best roaster is the roaster where you can get the beans shortly after they are roasted. That is the largest indicator of how much flavor you get out of roasting. I'm not a hardcore coffee snob, but I read the rule of thumb is that 1-3 days after roasting is optimal to begin consumption, with quality eventually decreasing after a week or two. So you want to source a roaster that is able to supply beans that were either roasted that day or shortly thereafter, of which there is rarely a guarantee unless you are going in and buying dated bags in person. Your second best bet is to just find a roaster that supplies all of the restaurants in your area, you can usually trust that their bean inventory is being churned constantly by the restaurant business and that the beans are going to be pretty freshly roasted when you get them.

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by jerkstate »

90s_dev wrote: post #31

> You'll get diabetes. Have a coffee. When I was a kid, I hated even the smell of coffee so much, that tasting it could make me throw up. A few years ago, to help kick my soda habit, I forced myself to drink black coffee every single day. The first day, I could barely stomach a few sips. After a week or so, I could finish the whole cup with great difficulty. After another few weeks, I could finish it without minding.…

You probably want to use citric acid to clean your coffee maker, vinegar will make it taste worse imo

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by Palomides »

jerkstate wrote: post #23

I switched to unsweetened cacao with some extras in the morning, had to lay off caffeine but theobromine seems fine. Here’s my recipe: About 15-20 grams of unsweetened cacao paste 2 grams freeze dried panax ginseng (some ginseng powders are disgustingly bitter and others taste nice and earthy) Dash of cayenne pepper About 3/4 to 1 cup milk (cold) Top up with about another cup of boiling water from the kettle and imme…

cacao has caffiene, too
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