That explains a lot.
Satya Nadella says as much as 30% of Microsoft code is written by software
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Re: Satya Nadella says as much as 30% of Microsoft code is written by software
#32People are going to ask if this is true etc. Not understanding that is doesn't matter if it is true, or if it is rather 20%, 2% or 40%, if it is new code or else. What matters is what "investors" and bean counters believe to be true. Not much relief in knowing that they are wrong, when you lose your job or your working conditions suddenly become much worse.
This is sort of the correct answer. But it also doesn't matter.
AI can replace devs or they can't. And it is sort of weird that people think about how many lines of code they output.
It is weird, because it has been a very long time that writing lines of code is far from being my main activity, even if it is the part of the job I like the most. I wonder where exactly people work where this is their main activity if they are not junior developers anymore.
Yeah, LLMs are sort of useful at spitting out code, if you know how to code. It can output code faster than you, and if you have good domain knowledge you can proofread it for the inevitable bullshit/bugs.
That's about it. Even to write decent prompts to guide it you need to understand well the domain to get it working.
Re: Satya Nadella says as much as 30% of Microsoft code is written by software
#33I think 60% of my code is written by vim. I make pretty heavy use of competitions, especially contextual compilations. Anything longer than 3 characters is only going to be typed once
Re: Satya Nadella says as much as 30% of Microsoft code is written by software
#34Hey Satya, you should ask Windows 11 taskbar team to use "AI" to write code so that the taskbar is resizable and can be moved. Let's see how good the AI is.
But you don't need AI to undo a bunch of commits
Re: Satya Nadella says as much as 30% of Microsoft code is written by software
#35I recently rewrote a 40K lines application to 2K lines. Mostly by using newer tech and better design patterns. (Java to TS, Terraform to CDK, lambda soup to single app, etc.). It was a POC at work to show how things could be different. You'd think this would have made some devs rethink their approach, but no they're using AI to write even more code faster in the old approach.
I've witnessed projects beind rewritten using Cursor, with 10x more code & dozens of bugs no one noticed.
Vibe coding is the new offshoring.
Re: Satya Nadella says as much as 30% of Microsoft code is written by software
#361. Has the total amount of code risen, such that the amount of human code is unchanged? 2. What's the bug rate like from AI code? is MS investing the time to check this code, or assuming it is correct? 3. Who writes the test cases? 4. 30% in what terms? number of lines of code? number of commits? what code is in play here? bulk test code, which is huge and per-line very low value, or is this serious, difficult, compl…
> is MS investing the time to check this code, or assuming it is correct?
The spyware part is manually reviewed, the rest... not so much.
Re: Satya Nadella says as much as 30% of Microsoft code is written by software
#37Well that explains a lot ;)
Re: Satya Nadella says as much as 30% of Microsoft code is written by software
#38Misleading clickbait
Re: Satya Nadella says as much as 30% of Microsoft code is written by software
#39“As much as” are weasel words to help them sell their AI coding products to others.
Re: Satya Nadella says as much as 30% of Microsoft code is written by software
#40No, he doesn't say that. He said that "maybe 20%, 30% of the code that is inside of our repos today and some of our projects are probably all written by software". A guy like Nadella doesn't accidentally say software instead of AI. He knows exactly what he is saying. Considering that most of their software has been developed for decades and AI assistants have only started becoming useful in the last ~4 years it would…
I'd guess they also have various tools for large scale fixes/refactoring, and the output from those could count as well.