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Microsoft CEO says up to 30% of the company's code was written by AI

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Re: Microsoft CEO says up to 30% of the company's code was written by AI

#31
the actual quote (https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/business/money-report/sat...):

> "I'd say maybe 20%, 30% of the code that is inside of our repos today and some of our projects are probably all written by software," Nadella said during a conversation before a live audience with Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg.

which is clearly untrue, one assumes he meant "20%, 30% written since 2023 was partially generated by an LLM operated by a developer", but that doesn't sell stock.

Re: Microsoft CEO says up to 30% of the company's code was written by AI

#34
Generated by software -> generated by AI seems huge logical leap. Then again maybe it can be for given meaning of "AI".

Not that 30% of code being automatically generated from templates or in some algorithmic way seem unbelievable. There is likely lot of code that could be generated by other code and it might even be reasonable choice.

Re: Microsoft CEO says up to 30% of the company's code was written by AI

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post #16

I don’t believe that datum for a second considering how big their existing code bases are.

If any line of any codebase was written by AI, then up to 30% can be true, in the way that my ISP will claim ~900 Mbps still qualifies as up to 2 Gbps.

Re: Microsoft CEO says up to 30% of the company's code was written by AI

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not? They want companies to buy their AI enabled slop.

Wouldn’t being transparent with how effective it was at writing code be a good sales tool?

Only if it's effective at writing code, which it of course is not.

Any time you see companies refusing to even vaguely define what metrics like this mean (or, for that matter, using non-standard metrics, like disclosing weekly active users but not monthly), it's generally a very strong signal that they're not interested in being transparent because the truth is, ah, not what they would like it to be.

Re: Microsoft CEO says up to 30% of the company's code was written by AI

#37

this was reported as actually just IDE tab completion back when google claimed this stat last year

google's internal and extremely sophisticated LLM completion thing is driven by IDE tab completion

it also drives my gmail sentence autocomplete. it does not mean “30% of my email is written by AI”. It does help me type faster though. Reframing the one as the other is, imo, securities fraud. (I will asterisk that YC startups vibecoding their product is real, but that’s, like, 10^10 lower LOC scale than “all of Google”)

Re: Microsoft CEO says up to 30% of the company's code was written by AI

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post #24
post #16

I don’t believe that datum for a second considering how big their existing code bases are.

I don't believe it either but they probably meant 30% of the code committed not of their total codebase.

By trying to understand, I believe you are expending more thought and effort by far than was made to make the statement.

Re: Microsoft CEO says up to 30% of the company's code was written by AI

#39

this was reported as actually just IDE tab completion back when google claimed this stat last year

google's internal and extremely sophisticated LLM completion thing is driven by IDE tab completion

IMO, the key thing that software engineers want to know with these numbers is "is there still an engineer involved." In my mind LLM powered autocomplete that generates a lot of code is just totally different from "PM says they want this feature and the AI generates the entire thing from scratch" in that one amplifies the capabilities of an engineer while the other replaces them.

Re: Microsoft CEO says up to 30% of the company's code was written by AI

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> Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella said that 20%-30% of code inside the company’s repositories was “written by software” — meaning AI Does it mean AI though? Lots of lines in repositories are generated by software that isn’t AI. Dependency lock files, proto files, etc IMO the wording is intentionally misleading.

Lot of leeway there. Almost 100% of my source is written by my text editor.
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