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JRE & JDK now available to OS X developers

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Re: JRE & JDK now available to OS X developers

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Post by _djo_ »

Zirro wrote: post #30
_djo_ wrote: post #12

Note that the JRE installs to /Library/Internet Plug-Ins/JavaAppletPlugin.plugin only, so it cannot easily be used by Java desktop applications and appears to be for applets only. It also installs a System Preferences plugin that opens up a custom Swing-based settings panel that looks awful on a Retina MBP. It tries to replicate the look of the standard Apple Java Preferences app, but is confusing because it doesn't…

"...custom Swing-based settings panel that looks awful on a Retina MBP." For those of us without Retina MBP's, could you upload a screenshot?

Sure:

http://i46.tinypic.com/25qu9a9.png http://i47.tinypic.com/2hhq3ae.jpg http://i47.tinypic.com/2j2xrm0.jpg

The images compressed a little on upload, so it actually looks even worse than in the image. The contrast between the sharp text everywhere else and the fuzzy Swing window is jarring.

Re: JRE & JDK now available to OS X developers

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ryannielsen wrote: post #26
jpxxx wrote: post #8

Apple's already removed their own JRE from default OS X installs, demand-loading it only with explicit user authorization. Furthermore they've sent out recent security updates partially disabling applet loading in web browsers and disabling the JVM entirely if it hasn't been used in a long while. I think that the next step of completely shuttering Apple's JRE demand-loader will be a straight-up security win for most…

Photoshop and other Adobe apps have components written in Java. Without Java, those components will silently fail. Thus, the on-demand Java installation hooks will be present for as long as current versions of CS are supported on OS X. For reference, Adobe CS 3, released 5 years ago, is still supported by Mountain Lion: http://www.adobe.com/products/creativesuite/faq.html#a139_12... I suspect the on-demand Java insta…

Ach, you're right. The extensions loader alone blows up on boot. It'd be infeasible to remove the Apple JRE from the field. So much for my pet theory.
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