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YC founder points out that jobs exist outside of working for police state

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Re: YC founder points out that jobs exist outside of working for police state

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But we need whistleblowers inside.

Palantir should simply not exist and the executives should be tried for war crimes.

Ok, you’re right. Shut it down.

Should be rid of it by tomorrow then?

Re: YC founder points out that jobs exist outside of working for police state

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Who would you prefer filling the ranks at a company like Palantir? 1. People who are sympathetic to these concerns, and more likely to change thinking from within or whistleblow if needed. 2. Everyone left over who are pro police state and fascism? OP’s post would only fill Palantir with the second group. This seems more dangerous than to fill it with a diverse crowd.

Nobody. A company like Palantir doesn't need to exist and people don't need to work for it.

Does everyone in the country agree with this sentiment? I have a feeling people might still apply. :/

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Who would you prefer filling the ranks at a company like Palantir? 1. People who are sympathetic to these concerns, and more likely to change thinking from within or whistleblow if needed. 2. Everyone left over who are pro police state and fascism? OP’s post would only fill Palantir with the second group. This seems more dangerous than to fill it with a diverse crowd.

Has (1) ever worked?

Is “worked” a pass/fail metric? Or just a way to improve a situation?

Re: YC founder points out that jobs exist outside of working for police state

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There is no ethical consumption under capitalism. And since labor is coercive, there is no ethical labor under capitalism either. There are degrees and Palantir is not a great one. Working on the Project Auschwitz is not something I’d want on my conscience or resume. But you’re largely fooling yourself if you work in tech and think you’re removed from this. Big tech are defense contractors. Working on AI? You’re dire…

I draw the line at working for a US company. I am aware that it still doesn't make me "removed from this". My guess is that I'm not more than 4 invoices away from Palantir-alikes but at least I'm not directly propping up the economy of US.

Re: YC founder points out that jobs exist outside of working for police state

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody. A company like Palantir doesn't need to exist and people don't need to work for it.

Does everyone in the country agree with this sentiment? I have a feeling people might still apply. :/

If 50% of engineers choose not to work for Palantir for ethical reasons, they have to hire from a reduced talent pool. The company will have to pay more for talented engineers but can probably still succeed. If 90%-99% of engineers refuse to work for them, they're going to have a much harder time of it.
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