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Still better than being ignored like eg can often happen in German restaurants.
Sounds like you need to pick better places.
German service (not just in restaurants) is proverbially bad, even among Germans. See https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servicew%C3%BCste
I hate tipping. The last think I want to do after eating is math. And don’t get me started on the inefficient payment ritual we have to endure: flag down the waiter for the check, wait for the check, wait for them to take your cc, wait for them to ring it up and bring it back, then do some math. Unnecessary. That said, minimum wage is minimum wage. If an employee doesn’t make that up in tips, the law is that the rest…
Most of the sit down restaurants I frequent now use mobile pay terminals so at least that bit is less awkward. They leave the terminal at the table and leave, so you can pay at your leisure.
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Servers at a lot of restaurants don't expect to make minimum wage, so don't let "the owners will have have to true comp up to minimum wage" function as an excuse not to tip. If you don't want to tip, don't dine at full-service restaurants in America.
Servers are typically loving the current state because they frequently make way more than minimum wage(after tips). They all know they’d make the equivalent of back of house/fast food wages if the employer was paying it in full. Despite this the general attitude is such that most people are cheap for anything less than ~20%, I’ve heard that even the servers running the take out stand expect these types of tips. The s…
But for plenty of others, the current situation sees them being exploited and payed less than minimum wage. It isnt a rare few either. I'm not okay with a situation where a large group is being exploited below the poverty line, just because it works out better for another large group.
The service in most American restaurants isn't good; it is obsequious. It is disturbing how many Americans don't notice this.
Still better than being ignored like eg can often happen in German restaurants.
Berlin Mitte: Agree, yes, atrocious service, many arrogant people, no credit cards because of tax fraud (Lived the startup life in Berlin for 20 years, "Monsieur Vuong" was IMHO the worst for service and arrogance - but then there is "Il Pane e le Rose", lovely people, went there for 20 years, or "Restorani Tbilisi", my favorite restaurant in Berlin, most excellent food and service).
Nice city somewhere else: No. Here in Stralsund we go to 5 restaurants regularly. All are nice, have excellent service, people are friendly, prices are fair (But I so miss Georgian food).
The service in most American restaurants isn't good; it is obsequious. It is disturbing how many Americans don't notice this.
Restaurant owners need to balance between overstaffing (and thus spending too much) and understaffing (and having service suffer). The optimal point is different if your opportunity cost is $2 vs $15 per hour.
Thus, in a US restaurant, on average, you’ll see more waiters than in most EU places, given the same amount of tables.
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I'm guessing they mean that without tipping, more of the restaurant's revenue would go towards wages.
Sure, but the prices would also be commensurately higher.
And it is a horrendous argument.
You are literally actively arguing for greater inequality.
If a company can not cover their costs with their revenue, then they need to cease to exists.
And ofcause they need to pay fair market wages.
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To be fair, tipping on top of sales tax never made sense. Tip is always calculated from a pre-tax amount. And somehow the tip percentage has gone up - when I was young 15% was the norm. Precovid it was 18%. Now it’s 20%? Why is this being inflated? The prices have already gone up, so even at 15% the tip has ballooned. I also don’t understand why we have to tip waitstaff that is paid minimum wage - places like WA, CA,…
I hate tipping. The last think I want to do after eating is math. And don’t get me started on the inefficient payment ritual we have to endure: flag down the waiter for the check, wait for the check, wait for them to take your cc, wait for them to ring it up and bring it back, then do some math. Unnecessary. That said, minimum wage is minimum wage. If an employee doesn’t make that up in tips, the law is that the rest…
An employer only needs to pay more if tips don’t make up minimum wage over the pay period. So that 2x 30 mins every shift spent cleaning is paid at $2.13 an hour
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Servers are typically loving the current state because they frequently make way more than minimum wage(after tips). They all know they’d make the equivalent of back of house/fast food wages if the employer was paying it in full. Despite this the general attitude is such that most people are cheap for anything less than ~20%, I’ve heard that even the servers running the take out stand expect these types of tips. The s…
Yes, for some people the current situation works great. But for plenty of others, the current situation sees them being exploited and payed less than minimum wage. It isnt a rare few either. I'm not okay with a situation where a large group is being exploited below the poverty line, just because it works out better for another large group.