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JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

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Re: JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

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Post by _bin_ »

shmatt wrote: post #4

Junie has been amazing for me, completely replaced my payments for Claude Code and Cursor. And it was free (until today). It's the least aggressive agent i've used, no complete re-writes or even close, And is able to achieve about 95% of what I ask of it The only downside - which might be fixed in the newest release - is that it completely forgets context between messages - even in the same message window. But that f…

Cursor results are going to depend heavily on the model; Gemini 2.5 pro exp seems the overall strongest. You’re probably defaulting to 3.7 sonnet which is completely unusable; it was good at first but I am convinced anthropic “updated” (degraded) it behind the scenes to lower their inference costs. OpenAI did the same with GPT-4o for a bit a while back before making it better again.

3.7 also seems to have converged more on the hybrid reddit user/npr listener/HR lady tone and manner of speaking that makes me want to punch a wall. Genuinely people could probably increase LLM usage just by fixing this problem and banning r*fit from the training set.

Re: JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

#32

Post by mystified5016 »

rgbrenner wrote: post #24
mort96 wrote: post #17

Happy I never jumped on the JetBrains bandwagon... I was curious about Z̶i̶g̶ Zed, until they too started adding AI garbage. Sad. Luckily, I can be fairly confident that my trusty neovim will never add AI garbage unless I specifically go out of my way to install plug-ins. EDIT: Zed, not Zig

just don’t install the plugin

It's automatically installed and bundled with the IDE. You can disable it, but to uninstall fully you have to manually delete files from each and every IDE installation

Re: JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

#33

Post by netcan »

mike_hearn wrote: post #13

It's pretty surprising that they're willing to charge a flat rate rather than by token, but great news for users. It's inevitable that you get annoyed at AI when it consumes tokens and generates a bad answer, or starts reading files that aren't fully relevant. The flat rate takes away that bad taste. The business modelling behind it must be quite intense, I hope this doesn't blow up in JetBrains' face if Junie's usag…

>The business modelling behind it must be quite intense, I hope this doesn't blow up in JetBrains' face

Historically... this tends to work out. Reminds me of Gmail initially allowing massive inbox. YouTube doing free hosting. All the various untethered LAMP hosting...

If necessary they'll add an anti-abuse policy or whatnot to mitigate the heavy users.

The sophisticated modeling is basically "just get going" with a guesstimate and adjust if needed.

I doubt that pricing structure will sink any ships. It's going to be about utility.

Re: JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

#34

Post by helsinki »

mort96 wrote: post #17

Happy I never jumped on the JetBrains bandwagon... I was curious about Z̶i̶g̶ Zed, until they too started adding AI garbage. Sad. Luckily, I can be fairly confident that my trusty neovim will never add AI garbage unless I specifically go out of my way to install plug-ins. EDIT: Zed, not Zig

Have you used Avante + MCPHub in Neovim? I would say that it's far from AI garbage.

Re: JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

#36

Post by SparkyMcUnicorn »

_bin_ wrote: post #31
shmatt wrote: post #4

Junie has been amazing for me, completely replaced my payments for Claude Code and Cursor. And it was free (until today). It's the least aggressive agent i've used, no complete re-writes or even close, And is able to achieve about 95% of what I ask of it The only downside - which might be fixed in the newest release - is that it completely forgets context between messages - even in the same message window. But that f…

Cursor results are going to depend heavily on the model; Gemini 2.5 pro exp seems the overall strongest. You’re probably defaulting to 3.7 sonnet which is completely unusable; it was good at first but I am convinced anthropic “updated” (degraded) it behind the scenes to lower their inference costs. OpenAI did the same with GPT-4o for a bit a while back before making it better again. 3.7 also seems to have converged m…

I've seen evidence that suggests this is false, and that it's more likely that cursor degraded the experience in their context window to save on costs.

The date stamped models haven't had any evidence of ever changing or degrading, to my knowledge. Aider did a test for this as well.

Re: JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

#38

Post by mort96 »

o_m wrote: post #23
mort96 wrote: post #17

Happy I never jumped on the JetBrains bandwagon... I was curious about Z̶i̶g̶ Zed, until they too started adding AI garbage. Sad. Luckily, I can be fairly confident that my trusty neovim will never add AI garbage unless I specifically go out of my way to install plug-ins. EDIT: Zed, not Zig

Zig? You mean Zed right?

Sorry, yes, Zed

Re: JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

#39

Post by mort96 »

helsinki wrote: post #34
mort96 wrote: post #17

Happy I never jumped on the JetBrains bandwagon... I was curious about Z̶i̶g̶ Zed, until they too started adding AI garbage. Sad. Luckily, I can be fairly confident that my trusty neovim will never add AI garbage unless I specifically go out of my way to install plug-ins. EDIT: Zed, not Zig

Have you used Avante + MCPHub in Neovim? I would say that it's far from AI garbage.

That looks like exactly the kind of AI garbage that I'm happy isn't included in neovim!

Re: JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

#40

Post by speed_spread »

Nullabillity wrote: post #29
speed_spread wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't _have_ to use the AI stuff, personally I've disabled all of it because my fan was spinning like crazy. Maybe in a year or two I'll try it again.

You're still stuck paying for the garbage regardless, and funding an organization that thinks this is an acceptable business direction.

I was already a satisfied paying customer. I don't need that new stuff but I understand they have to go where the market goes if they want to stay relevant vs competitors (Microsoft VSCode/Github/Copilot) in the eyes of prospective customers who judge products using comparative feature grids.

If you don't want to use an IDE or pay for your tools that's fine. You don't have to look for reasons to hate on it. No one cares what you don't use.

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