23:59: “No one donates money to OSS” 00:00: “You must leave the world’s biggest software website to go to this random Germanic non-profit because MS was bad 20 years ago”
Microsoft was bad today as well. Or have we forgotten windows 11 sending screenshots?
Important open source projects should not use GitHub (2020)
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Re: Important open source projects should not use GitHub (2020)
#32I just had my GH account "flagged" (basically all interaction over web or API is locked, all open PRs wiped). No explanation.
Opening a support ticket is blocked by SMS verification. Which 429s. No idea if and how this will be sorted. Trust with some collaborators will definitely be hurt after the ban/flag even if lifted.
Really should have worked more on assigning another owner to the managed org...
So yeah, in case anyone who cares at GH sees this, account name profile.
Re: Important open source projects should not use GitHub (2020)
#33What I haven't seen in this post is the description of _real threat_, which comes from M$ owning GitHub. By no means I would call them "good", but what they can do? Delete your repo? Firstly, why would they do that? Secondly, just a backup. >Selfhost your repo, that's not that hard. Maybe this was true a few years ago (spoiler: no), but now, in the era of AI, shitstorm it became extremely hard. Crawlers will constant…
Well due to events in the US, I think governments at the very least should be very careful with having projects be reliant on Github, given that US has and can decide to lock off your country. When they are in a position of power, they can also gatekeep access to other people's repositories, not just your own.
Re: Important open source projects should not use GitHub (2020)
#34I don't believe there's any major harm in using Github for most projects. Maintaining my own servers and chasing ideological purity doesn't improve my project. Any time I dedicate to setting up infrastructure is time I'm not dedicating to making the code better. The nature of Git means Microsoft can't really do much harm. Every developer and contributor has a copy of the repo, should the worst happen setting up home…
> The nature of Git means Microsoft can't really do much harm. Famous last words
Re: Important open source projects should not use GitHub (2020)
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
The CI stuff and the fact that you can't really export bugreports and similar things are their lock in.
Also the fact that all your team knows how to use is Github pull requests, and they will whine like crazy if you move to a different model.
Re: Important open source projects should not use GitHub (2020)
#36There are many important Free Software projects such as GNU and Linux, and they've always stayed away from GitHub.
Re: Important open source projects should not use GitHub (2020)
#37Of these alternative forges I actually came across notabug first. I however was never able to establish how it is funded and who the people behind it are. Yes, The Peers Community", I followed that link too.
Also why does their website have to look so damn ugly? Is it so hard to design something inviting? I know that's not what really matters for a git server, but I just can't take such a project seriously. "Who knows what else they didn't really care about?" in the back of my head...
Because it was made by coders. Old school coders. Backend coders.
>I know that's not what really matters for a git server, but I just can't take such a project seriously. "Who knows what else they didn't really care about?" in the back of my head...
Yes, a nice looking website, that epitome of project maturity and quality /s
(as if there's a shortage of barely working vaporware FOSS projects with great looking websites, because their creators are more into the whole hussle culture / fancy launch page / web design than coding)
Re: Important open source projects should not use GitHub (2020)
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also why does their website have to look so damn ugly? Is it so hard to design something inviting? I know that's not what really matters for a git server, but I just can't take such a project seriously. "Who knows what else they didn't really care about?" in the back of my head...
> Also why does their website have to look so damn ugly? Because it was made by coders. Old school coders. Backend coders. > I know that's not what really matters for a git server, but I just can't take such a project seriously. "Who knows what else they didn't really care about?" in the back of my head... Yes, a nice looking website, that epitome of project maturity and quality /s (as if there's a shortage of barely…
Re: Important open source projects should not use GitHub (2020)
#39If github annoys you you can concievably create a new repo elsewhere, change origin locally, push.
The real question is how long until they annoy you. And how easy it would be to set up an automatic mirror beforehand.
Re: Important open source projects should not use GitHub (2020)
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Microsoft was bad today as well. Or have we forgotten windows 11 sending screenshots?
You mean Microsoft Recall? That never sent screenshots anywhere.