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More than 1,500 new fonts – including all-time favorites – come to Adobe Fonts

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Re: More than 1,500 new fonts – including all-time favorites – come to Adobe Fonts

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Post by mistrial9 »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #26
mistrial9 wrote: post #17

lots of complaints here (for good reason) but really I have to applaud any try at staying in business with high quality fonts -- Adobe and others, too. The economics don't make sense for what is being handled. Keep trying new approaches..

Or, like BBS's as a dumb example, time to move on.

that's a fine example - of what I am not thinking of.. BBS are online, low-res, signal not content.. whereas print fonts are high-resolution, content in themselves, and not replaced by smart phone users in 7pt squint sessions.. lacking delivery context in the discussion invites easy dismissal.. btw- support cash, coins and stamps.. you will miss them when they are gone, and the replacement can get very toxic, very quickly.

Re: More than 1,500 new fonts – including all-time favorites – come to Adobe Fonts

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Post by dmix »

tsp wrote: post #29

I don’t know a single designer or developer that likes Adobe. There have been so many hostile decisions, so many dark UX patterns. I am happy to live an Adobe-free life!

I tried to buy Lighthouse and it was a headspinning experience, took me a while to figure out it was a very overpriced subscription version with a confusing sign up experience I didn't trust. I felt like I was going to be scammed if I clicked the wrong button. So I ended up using Luminar Neo, even though I don't like it.

Reminds me of using one of those awful Microsoft maze websites like Azure.

Re: More than 1,500 new fonts – including all-time favorites – come to Adobe Fonts

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Post by kstrauser »

chihuahua wrote: post #30

As far as I'm concerned, there are only 3 fonts: serif, sans serif, and wacky. All serif fonts look the same to me, and all sans serif fonts look the same to me. The wacky fonts - no one would use them for anything except for a birthday party flyer. I am greatly amused whenever someone rants about how Helvetica is beautiful and Arial is terrible. They're the same thing.

I don't know that I’d brag about it. “I can't tell the difference between C major and F minor” doesn't mean everyone else can't.

Re: More than 1,500 new fonts – including all-time favorites – come to Adobe Fonts

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Post by Spooky23 »

beowulfey wrote: post #8
jamestimmins wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This seems like a common misunderstanding. Lots of SaaS have cheaper annual pricing. IIUC Adobe lets you get the cheaper annual pricing and then pay for it on a monthly basis. If you cancel early, you have to pay out the rest of your annual plan. This is no different than if you'd paid for it up front, and prevents people from signing up for the annual plan to get a cheaper monthly price and then canceling early.

It is a misunderstanding because Adobe deliberately obfuscates that fact when you purchase such a plan

It’s the dumbest argument ever. Find a perpetual software license or 12 month subscription that allows for cancellation for convenience.

I get why some folks are angry, it was easier to pirate Adobe back in the day. If people don’t want to pay, there’s all sorts of competition in different segments of the market as well as open source.

Re: More than 1,500 new fonts – including all-time favorites – come to Adobe Fonts

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Post by bitpush »

jasonjmcghee wrote: post #21

It's amazing to me when wildly successful companies have a great thing going and choose to try to squeeze customers instead of giving them reasons to be loyal, and then self-destruct. Adobe and Unity both come to mind. I don't think I've seen a brand increase margins at the cost of customer satisfaction, successfully.

What did unity do?

Re: More than 1,500 new fonts – including all-time favorites – come to Adobe Fonts

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Post by crazygringo »

tobr wrote: post #9

> Arial — A universal favorite for presentations and business documents Because it used to* be available out of the box, everywhere. Not because it’s such a great typeface. I can’t imagine the sequence of short-sighted enterprise design decisions that puts someone in a position where they have to use Arial through Adobe Fonts. * I guess that’s no longer true because of Android?

On the one hand, if you're editing a graphics file for a client that already uses Arial, you need Arial. Full stop. It doesn't matter if it's great or not.

On the other hand, Arial is pre-installed not just on Windows, but Macs and iOS. And Adobe doesn't make e.g. Illustrator for Android or Linux.

So what Creative Cloud app runs on an OS that doesn't already have Arial? What am I missing? Do they have something that runs on Android?

Re: More than 1,500 new fonts – including all-time favorites – come to Adobe Fonts

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Post by gnarlynarwhal42 »

kranke155 wrote: post #23
jamestimmins wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you look at their plans ( https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/plans.html ), and select "Annual, billed monthly", it pretty clearly says "Fee applies if you cancel after 14 days."

It’s completely counter intuitive because most other monthly subscription software does not work like that. Also considering you need to pay for Adobe software to work in certain industries, it is absolute evil.

It isn't a monthly subscription. Its an annual subscription broken up into 12 payments.

I understand that there was a lawsuit and all that, I read through part of the Adobe thread from the other day. I am not defending Adobe in that regard.

If you only want the software for 2-3 months, the month-to-month agreement is available, but if you have a longer-term need for the software you get a discount for committing to a year's worth. If you take the discount, pay the cheaper monthly cost and then cancel before the end of the commitment, a penalty seems fair.

Again I am not defending whatever obfuscation of terms that led to the oft-mentioned lawsuit, just that there seems to be some confusion about monthly and annual commitments.

Re: More than 1,500 new fonts – including all-time favorites – come to Adobe Fonts

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Post by fooker »

chihuahua wrote: post #30

As far as I'm concerned, there are only 3 fonts: serif, sans serif, and wacky. All serif fonts look the same to me, and all sans serif fonts look the same to me. The wacky fonts - no one would use them for anything except for a birthday party flyer. I am greatly amused whenever someone rants about how Helvetica is beautiful and Arial is terrible. They're the same thing.

I wish hn had a font setting just so I could reply to you in comic sans.

Re: More than 1,500 new fonts – including all-time favorites – come to Adobe Fonts

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Post by TiredOfLife »

bitpush wrote: post #35
jasonjmcghee wrote: post #21

It's amazing to me when wildly successful companies have a great thing going and choose to try to squeeze customers instead of giving them reasons to be loyal, and then self-destruct. Adobe and Unity both come to mind. I don't think I've seen a brand increase margins at the cost of customer satisfaction, successfully.

What did unity do?

Made a decision to make you pay per install of your game. Including reinstalls.

The development community took it so well it lead to CEO stepping down and reversing of the decision.

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