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How new US tariffs are forcing Europe to rethink its entire tech stack

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Re: How new US tariffs are forcing Europe to rethink its entire tech stack

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The Biden administration coerced social media and technology companies into censoring user content. There was an implied threat that if the companies didn't comply then the administration would hit them in other ways. This was a violation of the spirit of the First Amendment, although not technically illegal. https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/06/justices-side-with-biden-... (Yes, I am aware that other administrations h…

Trying to control misinformation about an unfolding pandemic is not the same as this: https://pen.org/banned-words-list/ Public health is primarily a responsibility, not a culture war.

Nonsense. The desire to control misinformation does not in any way justify censorship. The ends don't justify the means. And much of the content that was censored (or shadow banned or whatever) was either factually accurate, or simply opinions.

Re: How new US tariffs are forcing Europe to rethink its entire tech stack

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> The problem they had was Lina Khan, who was dead set on breaking up their monopolies. Guess what? The breakup of their monopolies is still going to continue :-) Free speech? Did Biden put a Bridle in their mouth to control their speech?

The breakup of their monopolies is still going to continue You believe that, if it brings you comfort.

> You believe that, if it brings you comfort.

DOW hitting 100k+ and one of each in 'Magnificient 7' reaching 10T+ valuation, one day trip to Mars (conditionally, it has water and oxygen) - will bring me great comfort. It doesn't work that way, my friend!! Many times reality is harsher than it is not. We have to face it regardless of comfort.

Re: How new US tariffs are forcing Europe to rethink its entire tech stack

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I believe politicians in the EU are chomping at the bit to get a digital services tax implemented against US big tech companies. I think Silicon Valley tech titans really screwed the pooch here. They are going to be big targets for trade retaliation and I am not sure how much help the US government will be able to offer. Moreover, if the administration changes, the Democrats will absolutely take apart these tech comp…

Looking at the situation from the shoes of a tech titan (Zuck, Musk, Bezos, etc), i almost see it as the lesser of two evils. The problem they had was Lina Khan, who was dead set on breaking up their monopolies. They all decided to get into bed with the Trump admin and help het the guy elected, they all say it was for free speech but let’s get real it’s only because Lina Khan is no longer at FTC. But now they have a…

The tech titans' problems with the Biden administration went beyond Lina Khan. They were upset about foreign taxes and fines, and felt that the Biden administration hadn't done enough to promote the interests of US tech companies abroad. There may be some buyer's remorse at this point.

Re: How new US tariffs are forcing Europe to rethink its entire tech stack

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> if the administration changes, the Democrats will absolutely take apart these tech companies. I don’t know if it will happen though. Tech companies have a lot of cash and lobby power. But some kind of move is highly needed as the tech sector morphed into something despicable

Even from a practical point of view. Now, however ill-advised, you're in the middle of a trade war. It's probably taking a huge toll on your economy. Are you gonna mess with what are likely the last pillars of what economic stability you have left? I think medical/healthcare will not be able to be touched for a while. Tech will not be able to be touched for a while. And so on. They just provide too many jobs in an en…

Like what, mess with social media and advertisurveilance? That will damage what's left? I really don't think so..

Re: How new US tariffs are forcing Europe to rethink its entire tech stack

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I run a small IT consultancy in EU mostly for companies with factories, so I have some biases. I have a few issues with the way IT leadership in EU has been running things the past 20 or so years: - Absolutely 0 care for having a de-risked supply chain. In fact, IT leaders are extremely happy to have fewer and fewer suppliers, I think it is even one of their goals! And look at it now, what to do when 70% of your comp…

> I have a few issues with the way IT leadership in EU has been running things the past 20 or so years

I'm not disagreeing, but you are mistaken if you think this is just an EU thing. It's everywhere. I seems to be driven by two things.

One is focus on the knitting - and outsource everything else. Everything else includes your security infrastructure - which you outsource to Active Directory running on Azure, or Okta. Amazing, since both have been ripped new ones in spectacular fashion.

The second is de-risking requires redundancy. Redundancy is expensive, and worse hard. It means you have to deal with multiple suppliers and glue them together. That requires internal expertise, but you just outsourced the external expertise so you could stick to your knitting.

Re: How new US tariffs are forcing Europe to rethink its entire tech stack

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I run a small IT consultancy in EU mostly for companies with factories, so I have some biases. I have a few issues with the way IT leadership in EU has been running things the past 20 or so years: - Absolutely 0 care for having a de-risked supply chain. In fact, IT leaders are extremely happy to have fewer and fewer suppliers, I think it is even one of their goals! And look at it now, what to do when 70% of your comp…

Why aren't they being disrupted by those who have much more efficient operations?
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