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I don't like traveling anymore

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Re: I don't like traveling anymore

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After 35, you don't like traveling but boy do you like 'Vacationing'. Author is right, after you travel (and slum it a bit) you realize that after surface level cultural/food/history differences everyone kinda/sorta wants similar things in life and while people's life stories are interesting, you start noticing patterns. OTOH, (Caveat:I don't have enough money for this) there is nothing that recharges you more than f…

> People (esp in their 20's) poo poo this. Rightly so Not really. It's sour grapes imho.

You can sit in a fancy spa or a luxury hotel anywhere and they share a lot of intentional similarities to cater to the same audience of jetsetting luxury travelers. What does a plane ticket add to the experience over a staycation at the local intercontinental?

Re: I don't like traveling anymore

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After 35, you don't like traveling but boy do you like 'Vacationing'. Author is right, after you travel (and slum it a bit) you realize that after surface level cultural/food/history differences everyone kinda/sorta wants similar things in life and while people's life stories are interesting, you start noticing patterns. OTOH, (Caveat:I don't have enough money for this) there is nothing that recharges you more than f…

Haha yeah, this feels way too real. There's definitely a point where the idea of "discovering yourself" through 4 a.m. bus rides and questionable hostels loses its charm, and a comfy robe, ocean view, and zero responsibilities start sounding like peak enlightenment.

Re: I don't like traveling anymore

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After 35, you don't like traveling but boy do you like 'Vacationing'. Author is right, after you travel (and slum it a bit) you realize that after surface level cultural/food/history differences everyone kinda/sorta wants similar things in life and while people's life stories are interesting, you start noticing patterns. OTOH, (Caveat:I don't have enough money for this) there is nothing that recharges you more than f…

In my case I haven't soured on travel but I have gotten busier.

I’ve narrowed down where I like to live and do that, after having seen what other developed nations have to offer. (There are parts of the developing world I could enjoy but I don’t see myself prioritizing them when I get back into the extended travel circuit.)

I can slum it purely for the social aspect, and then pamper myself at a Four Seasons tier place on the weekend - subsidized largely by credit card rewards points. Nice places are inherently not nearly as social as nice hostels. But I can also fly a paramour in, du jour.

As long as my health stays great my 30s have been a god-tier version of my 20s and I can see my 40s going that way as well. My 20s was mired by chasing rites of passages and learning I didn't like or want that. Doing the power couple thing with a fellow corporate climber, moving in, etc. Classically, I’m fine with the most aimless anti-intellectual and visually attractive partners as soon as I had the option. “Wife changing money” is what they colloquially say.

Film festivals, music festivals, retreats, the “socialite circuit”, living other places for a couple of months… the allure of that hasn't gone away, for me. In the mean time, life is just speeding by working and saving again, staying entertained in my chosen city, until I actually do something entrepreneurial again.

Re: I don't like traveling anymore

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There’s a weird gap in the modern world when it comes to travel, which is traveling as a group / society. In the distant past it was very common for entire societies to be nomadic. You’d have both your friends and family + movement around the globe. On the other hand, the solo traveler is a recent phenomenon largely enabled by 20th century technology and political developments. I know there are programs which travel…

The idea of "smooth space" being gone is kinda haunting. Everything's mapped, monetized, reviewed on TripAdvisor. There's very little true unknown left to stumble into

Re: I don't like traveling anymore

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> People (esp in their 20's) poo poo this. Rightly so Not really. It's sour grapes imho.

You can sit in a fancy spa or a luxury hotel anywhere and they share a lot of intentional similarities to cater to the same audience of jetsetting luxury travelers. What does a plane ticket add to the experience over a staycation at the local intercontinental?

That is why it is very common for vacations (of people who stays at Four Seasons) to start or end a business trips: I am already there, might as well get my family to join and try some new foods.

Re: I don't like traveling anymore

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Welcome, I hope you have a good time. You don't hear about Kazakhstan here every day, and rarely in a positive light. If anyone else comes to Kazakhstan and wants to see "the real country", I'd humbly suggest looking outside the two largest cities because they're the only places that have seen any development over the past three decades. My city hasn't changed at all since the end of the 1980s, you look at the photog…

Hello! Thank you for your comment! Do you have any thoughts about why the capacity to invest in infrastructure in Kazakhstan seemingly decreased after the collapse of the Soviet Union?

The answer is boring — massive corruption: the country has been making very good money by selling oil and gas to the West (along with some other things like uranium and coal), but most of it goes to vanity projects like building out Astana (hiring famous - and thus expensive - architects from around the world) and buying luxury real estate for the ruling elite in places like London and Dubai.

There's also the brain drain: since 1991, there's been a massive emigration to Russia of all places, which has slowed down a bit since 2022, but it's still going on — we have a negative migration balance with them. That in itself is quite telling.

Re: I don't like traveling anymore

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After 35, you don't like traveling but boy do you like 'Vacationing'. Author is right, after you travel (and slum it a bit) you realize that after surface level cultural/food/history differences everyone kinda/sorta wants similar things in life and while people's life stories are interesting, you start noticing patterns. OTOH, (Caveat:I don't have enough money for this) there is nothing that recharges you more than f…

Maybe. I’m 35 now and any time I participate in any kind of catered tourism it turns my stomach. Maybe I was just spoiled on it by reading ‘A Supposedly Fun Thing I’ll Never Do Again’. Maybe I’ve worked too many service jobs. But regardless, I just can’t put out of my mind how little business I have being there other than that I have some cash to burn. Paying for hospitality is about as appealing as paying for sex. In my mind if I don’t have a single friend who can host me in a city, I just don’t have a reason to go.

Then again I already live in a beautiful place and I’ve always been great at being a tourist in my own city. Ask me again in 10 years and maybe I’ll have your outlook.

Re: I don't like traveling anymore

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When you're younger, travel feels like expansion, like leveling up your soul. But over time, especially when you build a life with real depth and connection, the appeal of fleeting experiences starts to fade. You’re not just collecting memories anymore - you're living them.

I cannot confirm that. When I was younger I liked traveling to far countries like the US, Australia, New Zealand (living in Europe) To the US I would no longer travel for political reasons, and generally I try not to fly anymore when not necessary to visit relatives. So I travel by Interrail (called Eurail for those outside of Europe) and even there often with a focus on slower trains. At 60 it was the first occasion I got a senior citizen reduction in my life. Even that was a new experience :) And slower trains allow many kinds of new experiences, from the co-passengers and from the places they stop at.

Re: I don't like traveling anymore

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I have always despised travel, possibly as a result of being moved around a lot as a child.

I do not care for a single facet of it. Not the planning, or the reservations, of the attaining of paperwork. Packing or parking. Checking maps to see where my terminal might be. Pre-flight fondling by total strangers. Getting on a plane. Being on a plane. Getting off of a plane. Trying to find my way to wherever it is I am supposed to go, which I know in theory but must now execute. I also have a mild handicap which can make navigating some situations more difficult than it would otherwise be for someone normal. Seeing just kind of torture the word "breakfast" has undergone to appear in the hotel at morning.

Then there is the thing itself, whatever it is you are supposed to be seeing. Chances are, you won't even be able to get close to it. Apparently, you get to look at the Mona Lisa from something of a distance, and now less than a minute. Oooh. Then you should get a laminated card that says "Some photons bounced off of the Mona Lisa and were absorbed by my retina" so you can tell everyone.

And you're trapped wherever it is until your ticket home is valid.

Even if someone else is paying for it, I just have zero interest. Unfortunately, some friends have gotten into cruises and traveling, which leads to frequent exhortation that I, too, should travel, no matter how much I demur. Being pushed for travel was also an irritant at a previous job.

They say, "Well, think of all of the strange foods and new restaurants!" I spend more time at the international markets than most and, honestly, this city has plenty of restaurants I have yet to try, so if that were a motivating factor, I hardly need a plane ticket and itinerary to partake.

The furthest I have gone is about three hundred miles to take a close friend (he had a very terrible year of one disaster after another occur to him) to a concert to cheer him up.

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