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Re: Trello Android App Available for Download

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Post by mdenny »

rogerbinns wrote: post #28

I really hate it when iOS developers make Android apps. Android has AccountManager. It automatically integrates with the accounts on your device. If you ever present you own UI for a login screen then you are doing it very very wrong. What should have happened is that on start when I said I wanted to use a Google account it should have shown me the accounts from AccountManager, and then I would have picked and author…

Many many Android users are terrified of apps that ask for AccountManager-related permissions, especially the Manage Accounts permission if an app wants to use Android to store their own credentials. Developers don't want to scare away people who are unsure about certain permissions.

Re: Trello Android App Available for Download

#32

Post by thedufer »

rogerbinns wrote: post #28

I really hate it when iOS developers make Android apps. Android has AccountManager. It automatically integrates with the accounts on your device. If you ever present you own UI for a login screen then you are doing it very very wrong. What should have happened is that on start when I said I wanted to use a Google account it should have shown me the accounts from AccountManager, and then I would have picked and author…

This was not for lack of effort. You can only get OAuth creds from Google accounts on Android, and we use OpenID. If you have information otherwise, please tell us: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11347801/use-google-openi...

Re: Trello Android App Available for Download

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Post by ereckers »

mdenny wrote: post #31
rogerbinns wrote: post #28

I really hate it when iOS developers make Android apps. Android has AccountManager. It automatically integrates with the accounts on your device. If you ever present you own UI for a login screen then you are doing it very very wrong. What should have happened is that on start when I said I wanted to use a Google account it should have shown me the accounts from AccountManager, and then I would have picked and author…

Many many Android users are terrified of apps that ask for AccountManager-related permissions, especially the Manage Accounts permission if an app wants to use Android to store their own credentials. Developers don't want to scare away people who are unsure about certain permissions.

Yup. I just downloaded it and signed in with my Trello account name. I was actually thinking to myself that it seemed like a really pleasant sign-in experience (they provided a nice list explaining permissions). I actually came away happy. Imagine that.

Re: Trello Android App Available for Download

#34

Post by mgcross »

gecko wrote: post #27
mgcross wrote: post #10

Both this and the iPhone app are nice for a 320px use case, but for tablet, the web app is much nicer. It would be great if the web app supported touch-based drag and drop (jQuery UI touch punch?). Or if the native apps (which do use draggable elements) were multi-col.

I'm not on the Trello team, but I've spoken to them about this, and the short version is that it's tough as nails to do this in a sane way that also works across a wide-enough cross-section of browsers to be worth the dev time at the moment. As far as I grok things, that's part of why they're focusing on native apps. I'll hope someone actually on the team, like hamidpalo, responds with more details.

Thanks, I still love the app, and I really don't use it outside of desktop (during development), but on a touch-enabled device I just instinctively want to start dragging my cards around. And the native app is nice as-is on a phone (draggable between screens).

Re: Trello Android App Available for Download

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Post by rogerbinns »

mdenny wrote: post #31
rogerbinns wrote: post #28

I really hate it when iOS developers make Android apps. Android has AccountManager. It automatically integrates with the accounts on your device. If you ever present you own UI for a login screen then you are doing it very very wrong. What should have happened is that on start when I said I wanted to use a Google account it should have shown me the accounts from AccountManager, and then I would have picked and author…

Many many Android users are terrified of apps that ask for AccountManager-related permissions, especially the Manage Accounts permission if an app wants to use Android to store their own credentials. Developers don't want to scare away people who are unsure about certain permissions.

The widely adopted solution is to explain permissions clearly (eg text in app description or link to a web page).

In this case I wasn't even talking about the Trello apps storing credentials in AccountManager - I meant it as a client of the AccountManager to let me use the existing credentials the device already knows.

Re: Trello Android App Available for Download

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Post by rogerbinns »

giulianob wrote: post #21

Is this a native app or web app?

I took it apart using apktool to have a look.

It looks like a reasonably well structured Android app - comprehensive manifest, lots of activities, uses resources in preference to assets etc.

They use numerous 3rd party libraries:

* ACRA for crash reporting

* objectweb's asm for an unknown reason

* json-smart for json

* ActionBarSherlock as pretty much every app with an ActionBar does

* Google analytics

* Google cloud messaging (aka c2dm)

* Handmark's pull to refresh library

* https://github.com/iPaulPro/aFileChooser

* http://ormlite.com/ presumably to cache information to a local SQLite database

* http://loopj.com/android-async-http/ for http

* http://ocpsoft.org/prettytime/ for time formatting

* http://viewpagerindicator.com for tabbing interaction

When searching for webviews I only find them used for the login.

When looking at the localisations there are quite a few languages present, but it turns out they are from the library components above. For example if you use Czech the app will be include except the pull to refresh component which will use Czech.

Re: Trello Android App Available for Download

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Post by rogerbinns »

thedufer wrote: post #32
rogerbinns wrote: post #28

I really hate it when iOS developers make Android apps. Android has AccountManager. It automatically integrates with the accounts on your device. If you ever present you own UI for a login screen then you are doing it very very wrong. What should have happened is that on start when I said I wanted to use a Google account it should have shown me the accounts from AccountManager, and then I would have picked and author…

This was not for lack of effort. You can only get OAuth creds from Google accounts on Android, and we use OpenID. If you have information otherwise, please tell us: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11347801/use-google-openi...

Updated.

My ulterior motive was to see if you had multi-account support. I have a work trello account and personal one, and needless to say the web experience is dreadful.

Re: Trello Android App Available for Download

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Post by tedunangst »

rogerbinns wrote: post #35
mdenny wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many many Android users are terrified of apps that ask for AccountManager-related permissions, especially the Manage Accounts permission if an app wants to use Android to store their own credentials. Developers don't want to scare away people who are unsure about certain permissions.

The widely adopted solution is to explain permissions clearly (eg text in app description or link to a web page). In this case I wasn't even talking about the Trello apps storing credentials in AccountManager - I meant it as a client of the AccountManager to let me use the existing credentials the device already knows.

"Your antivirus software may have flagged the exe in this zip as malware. Please go ahead and click continue to enjoy the great experience we have waiting for you."

Re: Trello Android App Available for Download

#39

Post by mladenkovacevic »

hamidpalo wrote: post #24
mladenkovacevic wrote: post #18

Sorry I might just be missing something but is there a way to create a new board from the app? Or is it only to continue working on boards you've started already?

We haven't added board creation yet, but it is very high up on our next up list.

Great, thank you. Excellent app otherwise.

Re: Trello Android App Available for Download

#40

Post by binxbolling »

donniezazen wrote: post #17

Anyone using Trello for GTD. What's your workflow?

I do, sort of. I'm just getting off the ground, but I have these cards: Inbox/Unsorted, Next Actions, Waiting On, Ideas, Reference, and Done.

I haven't yet, but I think a lot of people use labels extensively to further organize (e.g. is this to do at #home, #work, an #errand...? will this action take #5mins, #30mins, etc).

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