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Re: NYC New Subway Map

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Post by vrosas »

easterncalculus wrote: post #13

Maps are to be read. If you want a subway map to frame for your apartment, then the current/old one looks nice, but the new one is just easier to read - particularly in a moving subway car, through a dirty pane, and from 3 feet away. Especially in the age of smartphones, if you're doing navigation on a train (or station) you likely don't have a phone or are already lost, the map should be optimized to be easy to read…

The best advice I got before moving to NYC was to download a PDF of the subway map to Books on my phone. That has saved me countless times.

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Post by llsf »

No skin in the game. Looking at the old one https://www.mta.info/map/36946 vs. the new one https://www.mta.info/map/5256, and not being a New Yorker, I would prefer the old map as it allows me to appreciate the distances and contextualize more.

But I can see a New Yorker preferring the new map to get just the subway lines and connections.

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Post by decafninja »

JCM9 wrote: post #20

The map still amusingly mostly pretends that New Jersey and transit running into New Jersey doesn’t exist. For example, the PATH is very faintly represented but yet the JFK AirTrain (which isn’t part of the subway and the airport isn’t run by the MTA) is given more prominent status. PATH is owned by the same entity (PANYNJ) that owns the AirTrain but is nearly hidden on the map because it goes to New Jersey. Back whe…

As a resident of NJ that commutes into Manhattan, and works with many NYC dwelling colleagues, I feel NJ mentally does not exist for most NYCers.

If I tell them about something in NJ, they look at me as if I’m talking about Alabama.

Miami or Los Angeles is mentally closer to them than Jersey City.

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Post by nicwolff »

Ugh. Every few decades some new MTA honcho decides to switch to a schematic map, and it's either shot down before launch or lasts a few years before people realize you can't actually find your way to any real-world aboveground location on it unless you already know the nearest station. Maybe now that everyone can get transit directions on their phone it doesn't matter anymore and can just be a pretty decoration.

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Post by noitpmeder »

frutiger wrote: post #23

Obligatory: https://www.vanshnookenraggen.com/_index/docs/NYC_full_track... Detailed track/junction map. (Not my own content).

I've never seen this before! Insane amounts of detail, even for inconsequential items -- see the isolated Brooklyn Navy Yard network

Re: NYC New Subway Map

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Post by wan23 »

llsf wrote: post #34

No skin in the game. Looking at the old one https://www.mta.info/map/36946 vs. the new one https://www.mta.info/map/5256 , and not being a New Yorker, I would prefer the old map as it allows me to appreciate the distances and contextualize more. But I can see a New Yorker preferring the new map to get just the subway lines and connections.

Compare the subway map with a real map of New York and you'll find that it leads you to all kinds of wrong ideas about directions, distances and relative positions of things.

Re: NYC New Subway Map

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Post by NoToP »

llsf wrote: post #34

No skin in the game. Looking at the old one https://www.mta.info/map/36946 vs. the new one https://www.mta.info/map/5256 , and not being a New Yorker, I would prefer the old map as it allows me to appreciate the distances and contextualize more. But I can see a New Yorker preferring the new map to get just the subway lines and connections.

New Yorkers actually agreed with you quite vocally the last time someone tried to introduce a schematic map.

Re: NYC New Subway Map

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Post by NoToP »

addaon wrote: post #26
JCM9 wrote: post #20

The map still amusingly mostly pretends that New Jersey and transit running into New Jersey doesn’t exist. For example, the PATH is very faintly represented but yet the JFK AirTrain (which isn’t part of the subway and the airport isn’t run by the MTA) is given more prominent status. PATH is owned by the same entity (PANYNJ) that owns the AirTrain but is nearly hidden on the map because it goes to New Jersey. Back whe…

This is an MTA map, not a general “transit” map. Having the AirTrain on it is a bit of a bonus, but probably reflects (a) it being the most common question MTA gets and (b) it being more integrated with the rest of the MTA system than PATH (use of metrocard, etc).

You can in fact use MetroCard on PATH though.
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