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Even setting aside the political stuff, this thing was 3 years late to the market. There are very few reasons you would want one of these over a Rivian outside of aesthetics, and it was a divisive aesthetic from the beginning.
Some EV trucks haven't sold this many in entire year.
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I don't think it's that simple. Tesla sales were already slowing way before Musk turned full MAGA and he knew that. Competition showed up, states started cutting EV subisdes, especially in Europe etc. Tesla was never going to achieve the 50% / year growth that hey announced, and hit 20M car sales by 2030. I actually think that may be one reason he did turn to Trump. It's a last ditch attempt at trying to save his emp…
Perhaps. I don't see how he thought this was going to save his empire, though. Trump's crowd hates electric cars. Environmental concerns are to them what pork is to pious Jews and Muslims, beef to Hindus. Rolling coal is their sacrament. The refrain at Trump's rallies was "drill, baby, drill". And this has been the case -- not the refrain, but the attitude -- since the 60s. So how was Trump ever going to save "Tesler…
Plus they mostly achieved that (accelerated the world) and pivoting to AI now.
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I don't think it's that simple. Tesla sales were already slowing way before Musk turned full MAGA and he knew that. Competition showed up, states started cutting EV subisdes, especially in Europe etc. Tesla was never going to achieve the 50% / year growth that hey announced, and hit 20M car sales by 2030. I actually think that may be one reason he did turn to Trump. It's a last ditch attempt at trying to save his emp…
Perhaps. I don't see how he thought this was going to save his empire, though. Trump's crowd hates electric cars. Environmental concerns are to them what pork is to pious Jews and Muslims, beef to Hindus. Rolling coal is their sacrament. The refrain at Trump's rallies was "drill, baby, drill". And this has been the case -- not the refrain, but the attitude -- since the 60s. So how was Trump ever going to save "Tesler…
Peter Navarro said that he expects Trump’s tariffs to bring in $6 trillion in revenue over the next decade.
The MAGA economic miracle is actually the largest tax hike in US history --- to be paid entirely by US voters/consumers.
Nothing about MAGA (or Musk) economics makes any sense. In the words of Warren Buffet, the tooth fairy isn't going to pay these tariffs.
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There is a massive overlap between Tesla 'cult' members who hold Tesla shares and Cybertruck buyers - hence the 'best-selling EV truck' for the first few months. It sounds wild, but it's a thing. Many claim to have bought several cars already 'for the mission' (one has to explain me, how buying several cars in a span of 5 years helps to fight climate change). Once this pool was exhausted however, there is literally 0…
I actually think that the design is something people could get behind. People are painting and coating it with various cool color schemes, some of them look great. The problem is that the car itself just doesn't seem good enough and has far too many quality issues and problems. The windshield wiper itself is like a flagpole for all that is wrong with that car. Of course - who knows, I'm only repeating things I saw on…
I bought it knowing the features it had at the time, I don't need the icons rearranged in a yearly UI redesign, or the adaptive cruise control algorithm changing from one week to the next, or needing to fork out for some subscription every month. If there's a bug or two? I will have the car for years, it's something I'll figure out.
It's a tool to get from A to B, not another IoT gadget I want to have to worry about updating and babying all the time.
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So far, they’re significantly negative on savings (the $140B they claim versus the $500B they’ve cost just at the IRS alone) and that’s taking the figures at face value when every sober review has found them wildly overstating the savings by doing things like taking credit for contracts closed during previous administrations, using the maximum possible amount on contracts which hadn’t spent anywhere near that much, o…
That $140B is a very concrete number with documentation to back up all 7279 line items in great detail. Nearly 1000x more than this $200M Cybertruck inventory. So yes, peanuts compared to the waste and fraud they've found. Your somewhat unrelated claim about the IRS is from a pay-walled source, and one that is historically rather biased against conservatism I might add. Are they claiming that the reduction in force r…
What do you mean by "very concrete number"? And why do you consider DOGE's documentation to be substantiating evidence? I quickly searched through your comments and see that you're a Mormon. Do you likewise believe that the Book of Mormon is empirical evidence that substantiates Mormonism? If so, how do you decide which reading material is substantiating evidence and which isn't?
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So far, they’re significantly negative on savings (the $140B they claim versus the $500B they’ve cost just at the IRS alone) and that’s taking the figures at face value when every sober review has found them wildly overstating the savings by doing things like taking credit for contracts closed during previous administrations, using the maximum possible amount on contracts which hadn’t spent anywhere near that much, o…
That $140B is a very concrete number with documentation to back up all 7279 line items in great detail. Nearly 1000x more than this $200M Cybertruck inventory. So yes, peanuts compared to the waste and fraud they've found. Your somewhat unrelated claim about the IRS is from a pay-walled source, and one that is historically rather biased against conservatism I might add. Are they claiming that the reduction in force r…
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So far, they’re significantly negative on savings (the $140B they claim versus the $500B they’ve cost just at the IRS alone) and that’s taking the figures at face value when every sober review has found them wildly overstating the savings by doing things like taking credit for contracts closed during previous administrations, using the maximum possible amount on contracts which hadn’t spent anywhere near that much, o…
That $140B is a very concrete number with documentation to back up all 7279 line items in great detail. Nearly 1000x more than this $200M Cybertruck inventory. So yes, peanuts compared to the waste and fraud they've found. Your somewhat unrelated claim about the IRS is from a pay-walled source, and one that is historically rather biased against conservatism I might add. Are they claiming that the reduction in force r…
How much to bet that they're coming soon to a governmental agency near you: https://www.npr.org/2025/02/24/nx-s1-5305269/tesla-state-dep... It's saving costs, you see!
It would be peanuts compared to the waste they've found.
Every time their claims were checked, there were found massive mistakes and lies.
Repeating loendoes not make it true, despite people like you trying to use that tactic.
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That $140B is a very concrete number with documentation to back up all 7279 line items in great detail. Nearly 1000x more than this $200M Cybertruck inventory. So yes, peanuts compared to the waste and fraud they've found. Your somewhat unrelated claim about the IRS is from a pay-walled source, and one that is historically rather biased against conservatism I might add. Are they claiming that the reduction in force r…
> That $140B is a very concrete number with documentation to back up all 7279 line items in great detail. What do you mean by "very concrete number"? And why do you consider DOGE's documentation to be substantiating evidence? I quickly searched through your comments and see that you're a Mormon. Do you likewise believe that the Book of Mormon is empirical evidence that substantiates Mormonism? If so, how do you decid…